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re: Aloha Stadium shut down & expected to be condemed leaving Hawaii with no home field
Posted on 12/18/20 at 7:44 am to chalmetteowl
Posted on 12/18/20 at 7:44 am to chalmetteowl
Alabama went out there twice. In 2002 and 2003. Hosted Hawaii in 2006.
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Posted on 12/18/20 at 8:26 am to CapstoneGrad06
That’s nice
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:17 am to RD Dawg
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Speaking of condemned stadiums,anyone go to the old Gator Bowl?
I was at the last game at the old Gator Bowl-1993 Gator Bowl UNC vs Alabama. Place was a dump
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:38 am to CapstoneGrad06
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Alabama went out there twice. In 2002 and 2003. Hosted Hawaii in 2006.
Yeah, if PAC 12 games can get a little wacky, Hawaii games should feel like they’re being played on another planet. That’s their niche
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:52 am to PEEPO
One crazy thing about Aloha Stadium, is originally the entire stadium could be shifted so that baseball could be played there. Compared to most of the cookie cutters, it had really good sight-lines for football.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:30 am to GaBassFisher92
That's actually a really cool design for its day. I'm assuming there were logistics issues with moving entire sections of the stadium so I guess they eventually stopped doing that.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:46 am to Floyd Dawg
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was at the last WLOCP in '93 in the monsoon before they tore it down. Shithole is overstating how bad it was; I'm convinced it would have fallen down on its own within a year if abandoned.
I believe it only lasted as long as it did was becauae it was only sold out a couple of times a year for FB.
I'm assuming other events were held but would doubt it would be filled like the WLOCP or Gator Bowl.
It was worse than the old Grant Field or Legion in Birmingham.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 1:14 pm to usc6158
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That place looked like it was on the verge of structural failure for years.
Always kinda thought it was cool though. Definitely recognizable. Watched many a late night broadcast from there. I remember recognizing it immediately when they filmed a scene of LOST there.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 1:18 pm to GaBassFisher92
The Oakland Coliseum still does this (shift between baseball and football).
Shea Stadium did it too.
Shea Stadium did it too.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 5:18 pm to Dr RC
All the U.S. Sports Books should pitch in to get the new stadium built as quickly as possible - whatever $ resources it takes to expedite it.
It is probably so rusty from everyone back in the mainland sweating so much on their games over the past decades.
It is probably so rusty from everyone back in the mainland sweating so much on their games over the past decades.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 5:41 pm to Floyd Dawg
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The Oakland Coliseum still does this (shift between baseball and football). Shea Stadium did it too.
Not like Aloha Stadium. Entire sections of the structure could move at Aloha Stadium. The dumpy cookie cutters like Shea and the Coliseum have removable and or retractable seating.
Side by side view of the shifted sections at Aloha Stadium
This post was edited on 12/18/20 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 12/18/20 at 5:42 pm to Floyd Dawg
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The Oakland Coliseum still does this (shift between baseball and football).
Shea Stadium did it too.
There’s a bunch of old ones that used to do it. Hosting baseball and football will make things interesting.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 6:44 pm to Snoop Dawg
How the frick is that structurally possible?
Posted on 12/18/20 at 6:50 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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How the frick is that structurally possible?
It’s possible, but wasn’t feasible long term. They put the stadium permanently in the football configuration years ago, and today the stadium has been condemned. I assume they built the sucker as light as possible, which explains today.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 7:25 pm to Snoop Dawg
According to wiki they basically got screwed by a design firm that didn't consider the ocean air causing the rust issues and a contractor that was too cheap and lazy to do the right concrete mix that made it cost prohibitive to keep up the maintenance of the movable sections.
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As originally built, Aloha Stadium had various configurations for different sport venues and other purposes. Four movable 7,000-seat sections, each 3.5 million pounds (1,600,000 kg) could move using air casters into a diamond configuration for baseball (also used for soccer), an oval for football, or a triangle for concerts. In January 2007, the stadium was permanently locked into its football configuration due to cost and maintenance issues. An engineer from Rolair Systems, the NASA spin-off company that engineered the system, claims that the problem was caused by a concrete contractor that ignored specifications for the concrete pads under the stadium.
There have been numerous discussions with Hawaii lawmakers who are concerned with the physical condition of the stadium. There are several issues regarding rusting of the facility, several hundred seats that need to be replaced, and restroom facilities that need to be expanded to accommodate more patrons. Much of the rust is due to building the stadium with weathering steel. It was intended to create a protective patina that would eliminate the need for painting. However, the designers reckoned without Honolulu's ocean-salt laden climate. As a result, the steel has never stopped rusting.
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Posted on 12/18/20 at 7:47 pm to Snoop Dawg
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The dumpy cookie cutters like Shea
Shea had sections that rolled on tracks to sit behind each bench in the football configuration. Here's a quote from an article that describes it-
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10. The Movable Seating Sections People forget the Jets played at Shea for 20 years. Plenty of older ballparks had hosted football games, but Shea was the first stadium specifically designed for dual-sport use. It looked completely different in its football configuration, because the two field-level seating areas, which diverged outward from home plate in the baseball setup, were parallel in the football setup (here's a side-by-side comparison). Those sections were rotated into position on two sets of underground tracks (additional views here, here and here). If you look at this baseball shot and compare it to this football shot, it's easy to see how the field-level section on the first-base side has been rotated into its football alignment.
Here's a picture of a side by side comparison-
This post was edited on 12/18/20 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 12/18/20 at 7:57 pm to Floyd Dawg
That is pretty sweet. Thanks for sharing
Posted on 12/18/20 at 8:00 pm to Dr RC
How close to the ocean is the stadium?
Posted on 12/18/20 at 8:17 pm to Paul Allen
It's about a 10 minute walk from Pearl Harbor
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:56 pm to Floyd Dawg
Mile High Stadium is another one that could move around a lot. I saw a Rockies game there in their inaugural year. It’s so weird how that worked out
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