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re: All but one member of the NFLs competition committee voted for the 4th and 15 proposal
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:28 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:28 pm to wildtigercat93
No me gusta.
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Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:28 pm to OvertheDwayneBowe
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the old onside kick.
They worked 8% of the time last season
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:31 pm to wildtigercat93
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The “fourth-and-15” alternative to the onside kick appears to have a good chance of passing at this week’s owners’ meeting.
This is fricking ridiculous. You know how easy it is to gain 15 yards in the NFL?
Why not stop all the pretense and slowly changing the game by rule every year since 2004...and just do this:
Make it a fraternity style - all offense flag league.
Aaron Rodgers will play all-time QB for both teams, and it comes down to each teams receivers...who is better...that's how we'll decide the games.
This post was edited on 3/24/19 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:33 pm to Glorious
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4th and 15 are pretty damn difficult in the NFL
Unless you deliberately underthow a long pass and get a cheap-arse pass interference. And let’s face it, getting one of those should entitle you to an extra possession, right?
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:34 pm to Ed Osteen
Didn't the success rate drop because of rule changes? I think that's what he was saying -- go back to pre 2018 or whenever.
This post was edited on 3/24/19 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:35 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Why not stop all the pretense and slowly changing the game by rule every year since 2004...and just do this:
Three flies up, two defenders, one offensive player, HOF QB that never played for either team. Think of the health of the players!
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:38 pm to Glorious
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4th and 15 are pretty damn difficult in the NFL
If you are down 2 with a minute to go it's a gift.
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:46 pm to CelticDog
This is a stupid rule. Bastardizing the game.
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:47 pm to Bunk Moreland
It was around 23% success rate of the season prior to the rule change last year but stay around 15% over the last decade
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This post was edited on 3/24/19 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:55 pm to OvertheDwayneBowe
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Statistically it's harder to get a 4th and 15 than the old onside kick.
Gonna go ahead and guess that whatever stat you’re quoting is wildly misleading
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:57 pm to KosmoCramer
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You can only go for it in certain situations.
That only makes it worse. Onside kicks can happen at any time currently. If you limit the scope of a replacement onside kick with this rule then you’re basically rewarding a team with an extra possession because they are losing. Why should you be rewarded for that?
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:58 pm to OvertheDwayneBowe
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Statistically it's harder to get a 4th and 15 than the old onside kick.
The location on the field changes the success rates of 4th and 15 conversions. The more field to work with, the better chances the offense has and vice versa
Posted on 3/24/19 at 4:14 pm to wildtigercat93
That is an absolutely retarded rule. There is no logical consistency with it whatsoever.
Posted on 3/24/19 at 4:17 pm to Ed Osteen
quote:as of 2014, 4th and 15 had a 15% conv rate outside the 20 yard line.
The location on the field changes the success rates of 4th and 15 conversions. The more field to work with, the better chances the offense has and vice versa
Posted on 3/24/19 at 5:42 pm to wildtigercat93
Another thing is if theres only like 3 seconds left on the clock when the losing team scores, they get a free chance at a hail mary because reasons?
Posted on 3/24/19 at 5:43 pm to WaterLink
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There are too many automatic 1st down penalties against the defense that simply running a play at all increases the odds of a conversion compared to an onside kick play. Let's start there first and then we'll talk. I dont want to see teams retain possession because of a 5 yard holding penalty or because someone grazed the QB's helmet
No automatic first downs except for personal fouls. Other defensive penalties only repeat the down.
Posted on 3/24/19 at 5:44 pm to Glorious
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4th and 15 are pretty damn difficult in the NFL
yes that is because they changed the rules so you cant overload one side.
the stupidity of adding more stupidity to the game, to compensate for a rule change you put in, for the expressed point of making onside kicks near impossible to do, and therefore causing them not to be attempted anymore, only now to try and entice a way teams will attempt them again, is mind blowing level of stupidity only found in the NFL front office
Posted on 3/24/19 at 6:12 pm to wildtigercat93
Seems terribly stupid
Posted on 3/24/19 at 7:05 pm to wildtigercat93
How about this for a new rule to allow teams a chance to keep the ball after scoring:
Anytime after a score, a team can choose to receive a kickoff instead of kicking it off. The opposing team must land the ball in the field of play. If the returning team returns the ball past the 50 yard line, they keep the ball. If the return team doesn’t make it past the 50 yard line, the kicking team takes over where the returner went down.
Teams can choose this option anytime.
Anytime after a score, a team can choose to receive a kickoff instead of kicking it off. The opposing team must land the ball in the field of play. If the returning team returns the ball past the 50 yard line, they keep the ball. If the return team doesn’t make it past the 50 yard line, the kicking team takes over where the returner went down.
Teams can choose this option anytime.
Posted on 3/24/19 at 7:06 pm to wildtigercat93
That’s a frickin awful idea
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