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All but one member of the NFLs competition committee voted for the 4th and 15 proposal

Posted on 3/24/19 at 2:47 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/24/19 at 2:47 pm
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This seems like a wildly easy conversion for such a game changing play

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The “fourth-and-15” alternative to the onside kick appears to have a good chance of passing at this week’s owners’ meeting.

That’s because Giants owner John Mara told reporters that he is the only member of the competition committee opposed to the proposal, which would allow teams to choose not to kick off after a fourth-quarter score and instead attempt one offensive play from their own 35-yard line. If that play goes for 15 yards, the team keeps the ball. Other than Mara, the rest of the competition committee is in favor of the idea.



Owners still have to vote it in however
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/24/19 at 2:48 pm to
Sounds like a stupid idea
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/24/19 at 2:50 pm to
4th and 15 are pretty damn difficult in the NFL
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/24/19 at 2:51 pm to
It’s a bullshite idea
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112179 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 2:52 pm to
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4th and 15 are pretty damn difficult in the NFL


There’s a gulf in between the difficulty of getting 15 yards in today’s NFL and getting an onside kick.

I’m all for making it a more obtainable since they’ve made the onside kick impossible, but handing them an extra possession for free doesn’t really make sense.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43441 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 2:53 pm to
What a dumb rule. Why not go back to normal onside rules?

I guess it's alot easier for the ref to decide the game with the 4th and 15.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
52812 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 2:55 pm to
Yeah, turning the sport into make it take it seems rinky dink.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
17168 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 2:55 pm to
There are too many automatic 1st down penalties against the defense that simply running a play at all increases the odds of a conversion compared to an onside kick play. Let's start there first and then we'll talk. I dont want to see teams retain possession because of a 5 yard holding penalty or because someone grazed the QB's helmet
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76445 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 2:57 pm to
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Yeah, turning the sport into make it take it seems rinky dink.


You can only go for it in certain situations.

And if you don't get it, the opponent gets it in plus territory.
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9309 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 2:58 pm to
Spot on.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21302 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:00 pm to
I don’t like it but they could also make all defensive penalties in this scenario simply be a replay of down and not an automatic conversion to help that part. But I really really don’t like it. Changes the dynamic of the game to me.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:00 pm to
I don't give a shite about fair/unfair, especially since I don't have a team to root for. I watch to be entertained, and this would make it slightly more entertaining.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112179 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:02 pm to
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I don't give a shite about fair/unfair, especially since I don't have a team to root for. I watch to be entertained, and this would make it slightly more entertaining.


That’s an incredibly low bar to set for making rule changes
Posted by emoney
Westerville, OH
Member since May 2010
8642 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:14 pm to
Not really. Considering the most important rule change that made football entertaining was the forward pass. All of a sudden rugby was a forgotten game in America.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:14 pm to
How about they fix OT first?
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25056 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:15 pm to
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I don’t like it but they could also make all defensive penalties in this scenario simply be a replay of down and not an automatic conversion to help that part.


Any time someone is breaking open, haul them down.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70656 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:16 pm to
How many catastrophic injuries have actually occurred on kickoffs/onside kicks?

That's how we should measure the level of danger.
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
2869 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:20 pm to
Statistically it's harder to get a 4th and 15 than the old onside kick.
Posted by Mr. Elvert
Dallas
Member since Oct 2012
14971 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:25 pm to
Plz share
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 3/24/19 at 3:27 pm to
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There are too many automatic 1st down penalties against the defense that simply running a play at all increases the odds of a conversion compared to an onside kick


As a fan of a team that historically gets a lot of PI calls against them (Saints), I would hate this rule in a critical moment of the game
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