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re: Alabama quarterbacks in the NFL

Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:43 am to
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:43 am to
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Because an irrational LSU dislike of Bama is the only explanation for your unreasonable shite slinging


Im shite slinging??? Saying that it isnt an anomaly is shite slinging?

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They are better quarterbacks than most other college quarterbacks.


That doesnt really mean anything. There are like 120 college teams. there are 32 Nfl teams. There are probably 5 jobs available every year. You have to be waaayyy better to be considered NFL talent. List off all of the SEC QBs to have wins in since 87. Then show me where Croyle, McElroy, AJ rank against those. Because Croyle having less wins than Jason Campbell is not an anomaly.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 11:44 am
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:46 am to
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There are like 120 college teams. there are 32 Nfl teams. There are probably 5 jobs available every year.
Now you're starting to get it.
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Because Croyle having less wins than Jason Campbell is not an anomaly.
Croyle is literally one guy. Jason Campbell is literally one guy. Think of the numbers you just brought up. The fact that we haven't been lucky enough to get just one guy, which is what most of the others on the list (AT BEST) is pretty meaningless.

I mean seriously, the Chiefs could've intercepted some passes and ran a kick back, not even won because of Brodie, and this thread and stat doesn't exist. If Brodie went to the Packers and backed up Rodgers this thread doesn't exist. It's just a stupid crapshoot.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 11:47 am
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22481 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:47 am to
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The fact that we haven't been lucky enough to get just one guy, which is what most of the others on the list (AT BEST) is pretty meaningless.


Its not about luck. ALABAMA DOES NOT DEVELOP QBS WORTHY OF WINNING NFL GAMES.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:48 am to
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ALABAMA DOES NOT DEVELOP QBS WORTHY OF WINNING NFL GAMES.
NO ONE DOES
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22481 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:49 am to
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If Brodie went to the Packers and backed up Rodgers this thread doesn't exist.


Oh so Brodie would just have won that game no questions asked??? I mean frick, Flynn threw 2 less TD in one game than Brodie did in his ENTIRE CAREER.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22481 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:50 am to
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NO ONE DOES


lolwut
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:52 am to
What program is consistently churning out NFL qb's?

The only one I can really think of would be early 2000s USCw and that's over now.

The rest literally just have one guy or so, at best. OM has one guy, do you think they're not on this list because OM is so much better at developing qb's than Bama or do you think it's just because Eli Manning was born with talent?
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 11:52 am
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22481 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:54 am to
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What program is consistently churning out NFL qb's?



They dont have to do it consistently. Just do it...sometimes. My point is that in the time frame in question there have been no Bama QBs where an objective person would say "Well that guy should have definitely won at least one game."
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:55 am to
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They dont have to do it consistently. Just do it...sometimes.


If it only happens once in a blue moon, maybe it's not about development. Maybe it's about talent, maybe it's a total crapshoot. Ya think?
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"Well that guy should have definitely won at least one game."
McElroy DID win a game.
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 12:02 pm to
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Also LSU has the greatest backup QB of all time Matt Flynn!!!


David Woodley says hello
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30696 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 12:06 pm to
as a college football fan - I would trade every sec title and national title they have for any nfl success of our former qb's.....


Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7653 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 12:15 pm to
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Jeremy Hill started 13


Nope, Bernard has been the starter since week 2.

Hill got benched for fumbles and never recovered the starting job.

Edit: I've followed the situation closely, because Hill was my first rounder in two fantasy leagues.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Will Munny
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
3077 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 12:34 pm to
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Nope, Bernard has been the starter since week 2.

Hill got benched for fumbles and never recovered the starting job.

Edit: I've followed the situation closely, because Hill was my first rounder in two fantasy leagues.


I don't follow the Bengals that closely so I had to look it up, but nfl.com says Hill started 13 games, Bernard started zero

Hill

Bernard

Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40838 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 12:38 pm to
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as a college football fan - I would trade every sec title and national title they have for any nfl success of our former qb's.....


Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30696 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 12:39 pm to
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quote:
as a college football fan - I would trade every sec title and national title they have for any nfl success of our former qb's.....





wtf does NFL success of QB's have to do with college success?
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 12:40 pm to
nvmd
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 12:41 pm
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22546 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 12:52 pm to
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I don't follow the Bengals that closely so I had to look it up, but nfl.com says Hill started 13 games, Bernard started zero

Hill

Bernard


Hill's listed atop the Bengals depth chart. He also has more carries but Benard's the leading rusher.

MI and Lacy are still better than RB LSU has right now in the NFL.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:08 pm to
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Nope, Bernard has been the starter since week 2.

Hill got benched for fumbles and never recovered the starting job.

Edit: I've followed the situation closely, because Hill was my first rounder in two fantasy leagues.
How do you determine who the starting RB is? Who gets the first carry? Who gets the first touch? Who gets the first snap? Who gets the most carries?

ETA: I just went and checked. Hill got the first touch in 12 of 13 games. No way to tell who was lined up at RB for the first play though.
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 1:16 pm
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:11 pm to
I remember we had a game in 2009 where Ingram was officially recorded as the starting quarterback because our first play was from wildcat.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7653 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 1:18 pm to
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How do you determine who the starting RB is? Who gets the first carry? Who gets the first touch? Who gets the first snap? Who gets the most carries?



This is a good question.

Hill was the starter put of camp, and Lewis never publicly said Bernard was the starter. But Bernard gets double the snaps Hill does, and is usually on the field before Hill.

Maybe it goes by the official team chart, which Lewis never changed.
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