After Brady retires and Bill doesn’t win another SuperBowl....

They will probably point to the rule changes and interpations of rules that gave Brady some crucial victories

They’ll retire at the same time.

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As good as the Patriots have been one needs to admit that 6 games every year against the Jets, Dolphins and Bills has been a huge advantage for them.

Playing 6 games every year against consistently terrible teams has given them home field advantages that they would not have had if they were in another division.

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This is definitely true

And it's a tough place to play in the winter

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As good as the Patriots have been one needs to admit that 6 games every year against the Jets, Dolphins and Bills has been a huge advantage for them. Playing 6 games every year against consistently terrible teams has given them home field advantages that they would not have had if they were in another division.

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Is the NFL office in Boston?

I agree, I think the same thing will happen when Brees retires Payton will too.

Brady and belichek are both GOAT. They e been on top since Bush was president

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No. Belichick is a once in a lifetime coach. This is the same guy whose defensive gameplan is in the HOF and went 3-0 against Montana’s 49ers in the playoffs allowing only 6.3 PPG against them. And I put as much stock in his Browns record as I do Saban’s record at Michigan State. It was so much more difficult to turn around bad small market teams in the pre-salary cap era than it is today. He did a good job there all things considered.

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Wait, so is Brady the GOAT, or is Belichik the GOAT? Many people will argue until they're red in the fact that Brady is the best quarterback of all time. But if Brady's coach is the best coach of all time, it stands to reason that much of Brady's success has been due to executing (very well) a superior gameplay.

You will not find a Packer fan that tries to put Fat Mike in the top 100 NFL coaches of all time. Rodgers has been great despite him.

One need only look at Belichik's record without Brady and Fat Mike's record without Rodgers.

Pulled this from a DaveSims11 post I found on Reddit...it's from 11 months ago, so I'm guessing McCarthy's record is actually worse than this.

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The Results:
Bill Belichick (14-6)
Andy Reid (17-18)
Mike Tomlin (7-7)
Mike McCarthy (3-8-1)
Sean Payton (0-1)

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Brady and belichek are both GOAT

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Think about the odds of this being true.

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how many times have the played those teams in the playoffs or Super Bowl? Those teams really aren't bad franchises any way.

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It could be suggested that having home field advantage just about every year helps get them over the hump.

I just checked and in the 7 games they've had to play on the road in the playoffs since 2000, they're 3-4. Not terrible, but decidedly ungreat.