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re: ACC just rigged the result

Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:01 pm to
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:01 pm to
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Which is against the rules.


I really don’t care. They had no idea if it was a catch or not. Having a play “stand” when they are full on guessing is worse than using the replay to make the call when it’s literally deciding who wins.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47324 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:02 pm to
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The video above clearly shows the Miami player reach with two hands from his back on the ground to rip for the ball because he lost in the air.


You should watch again. His left hand never even grabs anything.

Like I said, that ball came out way too easy for the receiver to have full control of it.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33533 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:02 pm to
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The fact it came out at all with the Miami player laying on his back and having 1 hand on the ball tells me the receiver didn’t have full control of it in the first place.


I mean go to the :17 second mark of the video posted above, you can clearly see it moving before any contact is made with anyone. He didn't catch the ball.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
11874 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:02 pm to
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ultimately I feel 99.9% confident that he never caught it to begin with so all the other variables that complicate it are actually irrelevant.


Thus it should stay a catch explicitly by the rules of replay.

None of us are saying it was clearly a catch, but it is also in no way 100% clearly not a catch.

Either you follow the rules set for replay or don’t have it. Plain and simple.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
11818 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:02 pm to
You’re giving off that ‘I’m finna go 11 pages with ALLL you bitches’ energy right now and it’s making my dick hard


Hell yea baby it’s frickin football season
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33533 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:02 pm to
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I really don’t care. They had no idea if it was a catch or not. Having a play “stand” when they are full on guessing is worse than using the replay to make the call when it’s literally deciding who wins.


You deserve more than 1 upvote.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
29452 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:03 pm to
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that doesn't matter because he was going to the ground when he caught the ball he has to maintain control all through going to the ground. we've known that rule forever. he clearly lost control
Correct, the question was whether he lost control when he hit the ground (incomplete) or after he hit the ground in possession and then had it ripped out (touchdown).
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33533 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:04 pm to
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the question was whether he lost control when he hit the ground (incomplete) or after he hit the ground in possession and then had it ripped out (touchdown).


Well the video posted answers that definitively, nobody touched it before it started moving.

ETA: It does look like the Miami player's right hand might have been holding the receiver's hand or wrist when they came down causing the ball to start moving.
This post was edited on 9/27/24 at 11:08 pm
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
13066 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:06 pm to
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Well the video posted answers that definitively, nobody touched it before it started moving.

yeah, seems the ball is clearly moving between his arms after he lands and then the miami player touches it.
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
900 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:07 pm to
You know the refs aren't going to screw up the conference meal ticket.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32899 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:12 pm to
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Please show me a single anything showing the VT player with possession of the ball in bounds It was never close to occurring.

It was called a catch. You have to show evidence he didn’t catch it. There’s none.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21832 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:12 pm to
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The call on the field was atrocious to begin with.

Ok, simple fix to that- overturn it on replay and explain why.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47324 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:13 pm to
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It was called a catch. You have to show evidence he didn’t catch it. There’s none.


I think it shows the ball moving the whole time.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32899 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:17 pm to
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I think it shows the ball moving the whole time.

It’s not irrefutable and that by definition is the rule. Once it was called a catch they had to prove it wasn’t. They can’t.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21832 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:18 pm to
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quote:

Some of you have no idea how the rules work.

I honestly don't to the extent required to make a call on that play. Are most folks saying it was a TD?

The only relevant rule is this-

to overturn a call on the field, the replay must show proof it didn't occur. And the referee should cite that proof when announcing the overturn.

Play was ruled a TD, replay doesn't have to prove a TD. Replay has to prove it wasn't.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11272 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:18 pm to
Wait til they get in the playoff against a real team. Bet the blowout loss for Miami
This post was edited on 9/27/24 at 11:20 pm
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
13066 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:18 pm to
it shows him going to the ground and not maintaining possession, thus not completing the catch. at that point that is confirmed, then it is touched by an out of bounds player, thus confirming nothing that happens after that matters.

I hate Miami. I wish the wr could've held onto it
This post was edited on 9/27/24 at 11:23 pm
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32899 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:22 pm to
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it shows him going to the ground and not maintaining possession, thus not completing the catch. at that point that is confirmed, then it is touched by an out of bounds player, thus confirming nothing that happens after that matters.

It doesn’t. I’ll admit he probably didn’t catch it but it doesn’t show he didn’t and that’s the rule. The catch call is the key.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
13066 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:25 pm to
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but it doesn’t show he didn’t and that’s the rule

at what point after 14 seconds in this clip do you see the WR regain possession? after going to the ground he has to maintain possession for it to be a catch. At 21 seconds it is touched by an out of bounds player so if the receiver doesn't regain possession between 14 and 21 in this clip it is incomplete by rule
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This post was edited on 9/27/24 at 11:27 pm
Posted by Drank
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:26 pm to







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