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ACC Commissioner says now is not the time to expand the playoffs

Posted on 1/14/22 at 11:47 am
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 11:47 am
This is all from Stewart Mandel

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ACC commissioner Jim Phillips: "The membership of the ACC is very much aligned in its position that now is not the time to expand the College Football Playoff."

There you have it.

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Phillips says the ACC is more focused on working with the other conferences on "much larger issues" facing college athletics, like NCAA reform.

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Phillips says they got feedback from ACC athletes, and Clemson "does not want to play any extra games."

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Phillips says the ACC was previously open to an 8-team model, but now they're position is that "this is not the right time" to pursue any expansion.

Unclear why they keep holding these meetings given their stance. It has to be unanimous.

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Phillips: "We're not opposed to expansion at some point. We're not. We just don't feel that's the right thing to do in college football" right now.

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I asked Phillips about Pitt's experience this year, won the ACC, went to the Peach Bowl, Kenny Pickett opted out. In an expanded CFP they'd be in it.

"Coach Narduzzi and all of our coaches are unanimous that this is not the right time to expand."

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Phillips expressed completely justified concern about wear and tear on athletes playing extra games.

Sankey gave his thoughts on this Monday, saying rules changes to shorten games could reduce # of plays over the course of the season that cancel out the extra game.

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Jim Phillips call over.

Important thing to remember: He serves his presidents. The ACC has presidents from schools like Duke, Wake, Syracuse, UVA, etc. The clear message is they have more urgent concerns about larger NCAA changes/NIL oversight, etc., than they do CFP expansion.


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Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 11:49 am to
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Phillips says they got feedback from ACC athletes, and Clemson "does not want to play any extra games."

Of course they don’t
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61758 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 11:50 am to
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Sankey gave his thoughts on this Monday, saying rules changes to shorten games could reduce # of plays over the course of the season that cancel out the extra game.


Dumb.

Dump one of the rent a win games.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67865 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:00 pm to
The ACC is trash
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
5617 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:04 pm to
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Sankey gave his thoughts on this Monday, saying rules changes to shorten games could reduce # of plays over the course of the season that cancel out the extra game.

Parasitism. Drain every conceivable dollar out, kill it in the process. They don't give one single frick
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10854 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:05 pm to
Of course it’s not. The Semis would have been Bama vs Cincy and UGA vs Baylor
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37437 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:13 pm to
Of course now isn’t. They are the only conference that doesn’t benefit from expansion as it would increase the number of teams they get in.
This post was edited on 1/15/22 at 10:27 am
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42367 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:13 pm to
run the clock like NFL does and don't stop for every 1st down
take time outs away for injuries like NFL does, I believe they do that in last two minutes
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21855 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:17 pm to
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Sankey gave his thoughts on this Monday, saying rules changes to shorten games could reduce # of plays over the course of the season that cancel out the extra game.
I assume the rule change would be to eliminate the clock stopping to move the chains after a 1st down?

Just eliminate an FCS rent-a-win game and replace it with an additional bye week so players can heal up.
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5411 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:41 pm to
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Just eliminate an FCS rent-a-win game and replace it with an additional bye week so players can heal up.



I think that would work but it's going to suck for FCS programs who rely on those big paydays to fund the majority, or sometimes all, of their athletic budget.

Do away with non-conference games altogether (or have 1), play your entire conference (or the majority of it), award the team with the best conference record the champion and do away with conference championship games. Probably not popular to do away with the CCG but it'll avoid situations where, for example, Michigan beats Ohio State in the last "regular season" game, and then turns around and loses to the same team in the CCG. Who is really the conference champion there?

Then expand to 8 playoff games. Sure, we're going to lose the big paydays to FCS schools but FBS shouldn't be a charity program if we're being honest. Expansion of the playoffs will then create the big out-of-conference games that will hopefully draw more national audiences than just regional. One thing I wouldn't like about this is that all the big non-conference games would be at neutral sites unless you give homefield advantage to the higher seeds.
Posted by Domeskeller
Member since Jun 2020
7768 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:39 pm to
The games are too long. There’s no reason a college football game needs to run 4 hours. Get rid of the clock stoppages after every first down.

And for God’s sake, get rid of the abomination that is the current overtime format. Go to sudden death the way the NFL used to do it: Kickoff to start with a 15-minute overtime period as part of real football situations. First team to score wins. Lose the coin toss? Tough shite. Play defense. You’re allowed to field 11 players on defense. Stop the other team. And none of this horseshite of a team automatically starts its possession at the opponent’s 25.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 1:42 pm
Posted by nvasil1
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Member since Oct 2009
15875 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:01 pm to
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Get rid of the clock stoppages after every first down.

This rule gets picked on, but eliminating it won't do much of anything IMO.

The average game length, according to the most recent data from the NCAA, is 3:24. The average NFL game reportedly takes 3:12.

Factor in that college football halftimes are typically 20 minutes to account for band performances, while NFL halftimes are around 12 minutes, and the difference is negligible. Some LSU games that were on TigerVision still managed to finish under 3 hours, and that was within the last decade or so.

Either cutdown on commercial breaks (which won't happen) or cutdown halftime performances (which probably won't be popular at a lot of schools). Those appear to be the real culprits for game length.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:03 pm to
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Sankey gave his thoughts on this Monday, saying rules changes to shorten games could reduce # of plays over the course of the season that cancel out the extra game.


This guy is definitely a Dim, that's one of the stupidest answers you could come up with
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61758 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:28 pm to
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The games are too long. There’s no reason a college football game needs to run 4 hours


It’s tv.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33922 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:32 pm to
Never thought I would say this but the ACC is saving college football.
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18741 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:33 pm to
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It’s tv.
Two minutes and thirty seconds every time the timeout sign guy goes on the field. It's crazy.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
6908 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:42 pm to
They don’t want expansion because it near guarantees 3 SEC teams per year while the rest of the conferences get 1 each.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:05 pm to
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And for God’s sake, get rid of the abomination that is the current overtime format. Go to sudden death the way the NFL used to do it: Kickoff to start with a 15-minute overtime period as part of real football situations. First team to score wins. Lose the coin toss? Tough shite. Play defense. You’re allowed to field 11 players on defense. Stop the other team. And none of this horseshite of a team automatically starts its possession at the opponent’s 25.


Lol no
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21855 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:33 pm to
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Do away with non-conference games altogether (or have 1)
No. That would kill a lot of great non-conference rivalries, especially in-state ones like we see among some ACC and SEC schools. Plus non-conference games against quality opponents are some of the most exciting games on the schedule.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61758 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:45 pm to
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Two minutes and thirty seconds every time the timeout sign guy goes on the field. It's crazy.


Some are 3:10.

Not to mention when a college game says 2:30 pm start, they spend 8-9 minutes setting up the game. Actual kick is like 2:38 pm.

If the NFL shows a 12:00 start, the ball is being kicked at 12:00.
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