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re: AAF reportedly needed emergency $250 million investment

Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by G8RU
Member since May 2013
143 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:43 pm to
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No one is paying $29 plus shipping for a hat for a new minor league football team.


Apparently they are; every site that sells their merchandise has sold out at least twice already... you damn near had to be on a waiting list to get anything at all.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29143 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:46 pm to
Yep. I tried to buy an iron hat and the shits out of stock.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30048 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:54 pm to
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I was sad to see Arena Football collapse. It was a mainstay league.


the biggest issue with AFL that kept me from watching was it was too heavily weighted to be high scoring.

that plus the vastly reduced size of the field

i like offensive scoring games but im not interested in a game where each team scores touchdowns on every possession in an average of 5-10 seconds and the winner is decided simply by who has the ball last.

if area style rules were played on an NFL sized field, then i would watch it, because then there would be some defense involved, and scoring was earned on long scoring drives rather then just being a given and only mistakes caused you to fail to score.

AFL is like basketball, you only need to watch the last 2 minutes of the game because nothing that happened before that matters to who wins
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 12:55 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37116 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:54 pm to
the fact they "needed" 250M immediately - and some guy just gave it to them - is fishy is hell.

What Ebersol is saying makes a lot more sense.

They get the money they need and can start to expand and put it to work. Whatever ownership percentage Dundon gets now, that percentage might have cost him more in 6-12 months.

Now the AAF can focus on football and expansion.

Guys like Dundon don't become relatively young and insanely rich by making bad investments, especially of this magnitude.

You haters are just going to have to deal with it. The AAF might actually have some success.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112338 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 1:01 pm to
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Guys like Dundon don't become relatively young and insanely rich by making bad investments, especially of this magnitude.


Ehh that’s a fallacy. Rich dudes make bad investments all the time. They just have other investments that outweigh the bad and when you hit you hit big

Look at all the people who got cleaned out by Elizabeth Holmes. It’s reads off like a list of the worlds richest and smartest businessmen.


It’s a common fallacy people fall for and the difference is when those guys mess up, they are out a lot of money but have a lot of money to fall back on. When Joe scmho puts his life savings into something because “well this smart and rich guy is into it so it must be something” and it bottoms out, Joe Schmo is out on the streets
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20408 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 1:34 pm to
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Duh. It's garbage. Someone start another thread on how exciting it is though


There will not be another post this entire week that is as accurate as your post. Sums it up nicely.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27303 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:35 pm to
LMFAO!I called this after the 1st week.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145179 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:41 pm to
but i was assured by this board that it was more popular than the NBA
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30368 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:45 pm to
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They're paying the players too much


Uh, Mike Singetary is making $500k
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11256 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:47 pm to
Vince McMahon and Oliver Luck are either very nervous or very happy right now.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51297 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:51 pm to
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Look at all the people who got cleaned out by Elizabeth Holmes. It’s reads off like a list of the worlds richest and smartest businessmen.


She targeted people who had no knowledge of the pharmaceutical industry.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27303 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:51 pm to
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Vince McMahon and Oliver Luck are either very nervous


This.

The AAF will shortly be on the trash heap of all those other alternative leagues.

WFL
USFL
Arena League
WLAF
XFL
NFL Europe

When will these folks ever learn?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27303 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 3:10 pm to
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Combine the resources, capital, venues, and SOME NFL involvement, and you could have a real "minor" or developmental league.


Minor or developmetal leagues cannot work or exist without subsidies from parent organizations or leagues.

The NFL already has CFB and the lost MILLIONS on NFL Europe.Why do they need to flush money down the toilet with the AAF...makes absolutely no sense.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37116 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 3:10 pm to
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WFL
USFL
Arena League
WLAF
XFL
NFL Europe

When will these folks ever learn?



The USFL tried to directly compete with the NFL. The rest of those leagues all tried to be very different from the NFL.

AAF is different. They are not competing with the NFL but they aren't dramatically different, either.

It's basically an independent AAA baseball league. Judge it as such.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 3:13 pm to
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but i was assured by this board that it was more popular than the NBA
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57499 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 3:30 pm to
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if it would be on regular network channels people might watch it

but nope, its only on NFL channel or cbs sports channel so the only area that carries it on regular network TV is if you have a local team or you have to use an app to watch it on your phone


Tell me why you think that is
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27303 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 3:41 pm to
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The rest of those leagues all tried to be very different from the NFL.


The only one that was fundamentally different was Arena League.

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AAF is different. They are not competing with the NFL but they aren't dramatically different, either
No idea what this even means...it's still the same game on the field as those other leagues


quote:

It's basically an independent AAA baseball league. Judge it as such.


Where are these AAA independent "leagues" and what's their record of success?

I know there's some TEAMS in class A and AA but not familiar with AAA leagues.Which ones?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47664 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 3:44 pm to
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biggest issue with AFL that kept me from watching was it was too heavily weighted to be high scoring.

that plus the vastly reduced size of the field
that was the whole point of the AFL... And you can't argue that it didn't breed innovation

quote:


AFL is like basketball, you only need to watch the last 2 minutes of the game because nothing that happened before that matters to who wins
you're indirectly complimenting the parity of the league and the close games
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31638 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 4:21 pm to
The league missed payroll or the teams? Big, big difference.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20770 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 4:23 pm to
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The league missed payroll or the teams? Big, big difference.


The league owns all of the teams. So there isn't any difference.
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