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re: A Tony Romo perspective thread.(nm, it's a PJ lol thread)
Posted on 12/24/12 at 2:25 pm to Michael J Cocks
Posted on 12/24/12 at 2:25 pm to Michael J Cocks
Quick question, how can the Cowboys not win the NFC Wild Card?
Do they lose in a tiebreaker to either Minnesota or Chicago?
Do they lose in a tiebreaker to either Minnesota or Chicago?
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Posted on 12/24/12 at 2:29 pm to dukke v
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What more could Romo have done?????
Scored a TD in OT. The loss was not on Romo at all but that's what he could've done
Posted on 12/24/12 at 2:30 pm to Michael J Cocks
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I do however disagree with y'alls assessment that Brees would win that much more than Romo.
This is where you are wrong. Brees is a much better QB than he looked this year. The Saints have been out of SYNC the whole year without there coach. The one thing missing from your aregument is that Brady,Manning,Manning,Rogers,Brees, Big Ben, ALL make the players around them better. I don't see that in Romo. ESP at the end of the year when it counts the most. I think he did all he could yestrday, But There have been other times that he has choked when the others would not have. LOOK you can talk all you want and have your opinion, But quit being a whinny bitch when someone disagrees with ya.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 2:31 pm to Tiger1242
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Big Bens a winner and I think he beats the Saints yesterday
It's a 2 sided coin with Big Ben. I think Big Ben would have scored on that opening drive in OT. BUT I'm not sure Ben would have gotten them to the OT.
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Matt Ryan has been a beast this year, he may even get 11 wins I dk
See, I'm not totally sure how I feel about Matt Ryan. I can't just sit here and say "No way he wins 10!" and be super confident in that, but I watched a lot of Falcons games this year. They played so many mistake free games, it was almost unbelievable how disciplined they are in terms of penalties and stuff like that. I have to wonder how well he'd do with a Dallas team that is the complete opposite of that.
and PJ, please leave brah. No one wants you here. You don't matter.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 2:33 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Quick question, how can the Cowboys not win the NFC Wild Card?
They can only win the NFC East and that has to do with their division record.
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A simply competent QB can throw for 4,000 yards if he's given enough attempts in this era of NFL football.
I posted this in another thread, but it's just as relevant in this one:
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Fact: Romo has the highest fourth-quarter passer rating among active quarterbacks. And it’s not even close. His 102.1 rating is more than five points higher than the second man on the list, Green Bay’s Aaron Rodgers.
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He has completed 63.4 percent of his passes for 5,819 yards (8.7 per attempt) and 44 touchdowns with 18 interceptions in fourth quarters during his career.
He is also 4th all time for career QB rating, only behind Rodgers, Steve Young, and Brady.
But you're right, those are 'ordinary' numbers for an 'ordinary' QB.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 2:37 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Quick question, how can the Cowboys not win the NFC Wild Card?
Do they lose in a tiebreaker to either Minnesota or Chicago?
Well it's irrelevant because if we don't win this weekend, they already have more wins than us. They are both 9-6 right now.
However I'm not sure if Washington loses, and Chi/Minn both lose how they don't get a wildcard. I mean I have no clue on the math with this.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 2:41 pm to Michael J Cocks
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and PJ, please leave brah. No one wants you here. You don't matter.
I love it when I am right. 
Posted on 12/24/12 at 2:43 pm to Michael J Cocks
Duh, I am stupid. If Cowboys win and in, lose and out.
Why would want the Wild Card when they would win the East?
That was so damn obvious.
I have been looking at scenarios for the Vikings and that just crossed my mind.
Why would want the Wild Card when they would win the East?
That was so damn obvious.
I have been looking at scenarios for the Vikings and that just crossed my mind.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 2:56 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Duh, I am stupid. If Cowboys win and in, lose and out.
Why would want the Wild Card when they would win the East?
That was so damn obvious.
I have been looking at scenarios for the Vikings and that just crossed my mind.
Last night I kept looking so deep into it and tracking so many scenarios that I circled back to the "wild card" tiebreaker myself and did so much over-thinking I somehow had us back at 9-6 right now. But yeah, we either win and win the division or we lose and we're fricked. Ultimately the Saints game yesterday didn't matter at all in the grand scheme of things. Even if we won, we're still in the "must win" situation and I think the wild card scenario more than likely wouldn't play out to our advantage if we won yesterday and lose next week....cuz I'm sure Chicago will beat Detroit. This post was edited on 12/24/12 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 12/24/12 at 2:58 pm to Michael J Cocks
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But you're right, those are 'ordinary' numbers for an 'ordinary' QB.
I don't think he's ordinary, I think he's above average. He's not elite, but he's above average
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It's a 2 sided coin with Big Ben. I think Big Ben would have scored on that opening drive in OT. BUT I'm not sure Ben would have gotten them to the OT.
Yea that was a tough one for me. For some reason when I think Big Ben I don't think 400 yards and 4 TDs, but I think winner
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See, I'm not totally sure how I feel about Matt Ryan. I can't just sit here and say "No way he wins 10!" and be super confident in that, but I watched a lot of Falcons games this year. They played so many mistake free games, it was almost unbelievable how disciplined they are in terms of penalties and stuff like that. I have to wonder how well he'd do with a Dallas team that is the complete opposite of that.
Yea that's an argument that can certainly be made, he's just been damn impressive this year
Posted on 12/24/12 at 3:06 pm to Tiger1242
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Yea that's an argument that can certainly be made, he's just been damn impressive this year
No doubt. He's not the type of QB (Matt Ryan) that you can say "you'll lose games because of him." And Matt Ryan can win an occasional game where he's down 10+ midway through the 4th quarter, but I'm not sure if you're down 17 with less than 5 minutes left to play, you have a lot of faith in him either if that makes any sense.
That's the thing with Romo, you can say "We won some games BECAUSE of Romo." but at the same time you might be able to say you lost some because of him too. He's just your typical gunslinger, like Favre was. But I was thinking this yesterday and another reason why I started this thread....I love having Romo right now while we're down 14 with 4 minutes left. I really felt good about that situation. He's becoming that guy where nothing is impossible til the bell sounds. BUT AGAIN, some games this year, maybe we didn't have to be down that far to begin with so
This post was edited on 12/24/12 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 12/24/12 at 3:08 pm to Michael J Cocks
Unless Romo can play safety and be defensive coordinator, the cowboys are kind of at a ceiling.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 3:11 pm to Tiger1242
quote:He has but i'd still rather Romo because of his ability to scramble and improvise. Ryan is a great distributor but I think Romo has more skills that would allow him to carry a team better
Yea that's an argument that can certainly be made, he's just been damn impressive this year
Posted on 12/24/12 at 3:14 pm to TigerStripes06
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Unless Romo can play safety and be defensive coordinator, the cowboys are kind of at a ceiling.
Oh he's terrible at getting pressure on the QB too. If he could have gotten in Drew Brees' face only once yesterday, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
lulz, but seriously I didn't want this thread to be about that. I'm still waiting on some of the better MSB posters to chime in with projected records from other QB's with this Dallas team. There's prob other factors that someone else may bring light to that hasn't crossed my mind yet....
Posted on 12/24/12 at 3:25 pm to Michael J Cocks
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I already hate myself for starting this, but it's something I was pondering last night, and I think it would be interesting to really sit back and think on "who would be better in Dallas" for those that still think Romo is a complete failure.
FWIW I like where your heart is but IMO you waste your time debating the people who think Romo is a bad QB.
He's a very good QB and if things fall into place for him in the playoffs he could win a Super Bowl with Dallas. People who don't like a player say nasty things about them that aren't justified... for example the people who said Peyton Manning couldn't win a big game finally shut up (but only after he won a Super Bowl)
Posted on 12/24/12 at 3:28 pm to Michael J Cocks
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Oh he's terrible at getting pressure on the QB too. If he could have gotten in Drew Brees' face only once yesterday, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
So yesterday is REALLY what THIS is all about. OK. You are butthurt cause you lost to the Saints. But yet Romo is NOT to blame for the loss.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 3:28 pm to molsusports
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People who don't like a player say nasty things about them that aren't justified... for example the people who said Peyton Manning couldn't win a big game finally shut up (but only after he won a Super Bowl)
That's the go to diss on a guy who's great, same thing they said about Lebron.
But Romo isn't Peyton or Lebron
Posted on 12/24/12 at 3:31 pm to Michael J Cocks
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P-Manning: 11-4
Aaron Rodgers: 12-3
Tom Brady: 11-4
Drew Brees: 11-4
Eli Manning: 9-6
Phillip Rivers: 7-8
Jay Cutler: 10-5
Ben Roethlisberger: 9-6
Joe Flacco: 5-10
Matt Ryan: 8-7
Matt Schaub: 7-8
RGIII: 11-4
Andrew Luck: 10-5
Russel Wilson: 5-10
Ok there is YOUR PJ list.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 3:32 pm to Tiger1242
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That's the go to diss on a guy who's great, same thing they said about Lebron.
But Romo isn't Peyton or Lebron
No, he's not Peyton Manning or Tom Brady by his resume but when he plays well he can play as well as anyone in the game for a couple games... and to win a Super Bowl these days you just need to get hot at the right time.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 3:35 pm to molsusports
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No, he's not Peyton Manning or Tom Brady by his resume but when he plays well he can play as well as anyone in the game for a couple games... and to win a Super Bowl these days you just need to get hot at the right time.
Signed,
-Eli Manning
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