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re: A Tony Romo perspective thread.(nm, it's a PJ lol thread)
Posted on 12/24/12 at 1:07 pm to Michael J Cocks
Posted on 12/24/12 at 1:07 pm to Michael J Cocks
I don't think he would only have 2 losses either but to laugh at that is disrespectful IMO. Not that it matters. I just find it funny that you are complaining about everyone being homerish but you are the biggest homer on here. Yes the romo hate is overblown on here but you make it your life mission to defend the guy by bringing him up in threads where no one mentioned him and start threads knighting for the guy constantly.
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Posted on 12/24/12 at 1:08 pm to RollTide1987
The better question is what would the records of the Saints,Pats,Niners,Texans,Broncos,Giants,Skins,be if Romo was THEIR QB.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 1:11 pm to dukke v
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The Saints Offensive personal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cowboys. Its really not that close.
OK awesome.
So you basically are saying The Saints offense is better than ours, but they have a worse record. So in turn, wouldn't that prove that Romo is way better than Brees? You didn't really think this one out too well did you retard. Now, please just go. You've already did exactly what I was trying to avoid. 
Posted on 12/24/12 at 1:12 pm to Michael J Cocks
I think there are only a handful of QBs who would almost certainly have Dallas' record better. Probably Rodgers, Brady, Peyton. I think Peyton's ability to get rid of the football so quickly and his pocket awareness/ability to avoid pressure within the pocket would bail him out enough to where he still makes a positive impact. His ability to read defenses and see the pressure before the play starts would help also IMHO.
I'll probably be attacked for this, but I think Brees could have the record better, although I'm not sure by how much. He hasn't had the greatest season himself, and he's shown to be extremely turnover prone when having a weak OL while being asked to carry the team.
Guys like Wilson, RG3, etc would be interesting due to their ability to scramble. Wilson had a slow start though and could have tanked with an OL that bad and not being able to rely on that beastly Seattle D while getting up to NFL speed.
I'll probably be attacked for this, but I think Brees could have the record better, although I'm not sure by how much. He hasn't had the greatest season himself, and he's shown to be extremely turnover prone when having a weak OL while being asked to carry the team.
Guys like Wilson, RG3, etc would be interesting due to their ability to scramble. Wilson had a slow start though and could have tanked with an OL that bad and not being able to rely on that beastly Seattle D while getting up to NFL speed.
This post was edited on 12/24/12 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 12/24/12 at 1:14 pm to OBUDan
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I'm an Eagles fan, and I've never understood the sheer hatred for Romo. He's made some bumbling mistakes, sure, but he's also often THE reason Dallas remains in games and competitive. He plays behind a shoddy OL and has for a few years. He has had some good skill talent, but then other guys flourish simply by playing with him (Laurent Robinson most recently).
Romo isn't an all-timer. He may not even be great. But he's very good.
I know and I'm on the same page for the most part on all of this. This thread wasn't just about trying to justify that Romo isn't as shitty as a lot of people want to believe he is. I genuinely want to see where people think other respective QB's around the league would be with this same Dallas team. Posted on 12/24/12 at 1:15 pm to Michael J Cocks
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You've already did exactly what I was trying to avoid.
What??? Prove you wrong????
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So you basically are saying The Saints offense is better than ours
It is.
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but they have a worse record
Because of the Saints Offense???
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So in turn, wouldn't that prove that Romo is way better than Brees?
You know NOTHING about football. Don't think for one second that the Saints wouldn't be at least 9-6 right now If Peyton had been there the whole year. This alone shows how stupid you are.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 1:20 pm to Melvin
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I don't think he would only have 2 losses either but to laugh at that is disrespectful IMO. Not that it matters. I just find it funny that you are complaining about everyone being homerish but you are the biggest homer on here
Holy shite dude, get over yourself. I wasn't laughing at Drew Brees, I was laughing at a combination of the post combined with who posted it. Please read my OP and then how I ranked QB's and show me how I'm disrespecting Drew Brees. Also I specifically stated that we probably lost 2 games because of Romos mistakes.
This is exactly what I was trying to stay away from. Between you and PJ, I've already responded 3-5 times on shite I really didn't want to have to justify or have to explain at all.
Oh, but even funnier, RollTide is saying that Drew Brees would only lose 2 games with a Dallas offense that retard PJ believes is inferior to the Saints offense. Do you see how stuff like that from those 2 idiots can frick up a thread very quickly?
Posted on 12/24/12 at 1:24 pm to RollTide1987
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Tony Romo is an ordinary QB
The stats say otherwise, but hey don't let things like facts get in your way.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 1:26 pm to Michael J Cocks
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that retard PJ believes is inferior to the Saints offense
It is........FACT. Do some homework MJC.
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Do you see how stuff like that from those 2 idiots can frick up a thread very quickly?
I think you screwed up your own thread ALREADY cause you won't look at things objectivly. I think Romo played Lights out yesterday. He Is NOT to blame for the loss. I have already stated this.However at least 5 QB's on your list would have won a sb if they had been with the Cowboys over the last 6 years.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 1:27 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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TulaneTigerFan
Thank you for your well thought out post.
This is the shite I'm looking for. quote:
I think Peyton's ability to get rid of the football so quickly and his pocket awareness/ability to avoid pressure within the pocket would bail him out enough to where he still makes a positive impact.
Yeah, that also crossed my mind. Also I was thinking about how frustrating it was for Romo to have to try and coach Dez B A LOT earlier in the season. I wonder if Dez would have matured a lot faster with Peyton. Or, the other side of the spectrum: would Peyton just give him a big frick you and grow so frustrated that he writes him off.
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I'll probably be attacked for this, but I think Brees could have the record better, although I'm not sure by how much.
you shouldn't be attacked at all because that's entirely true. I used that same thinking in my equation. I figure Drew could have and probably would have won a few close games that Romo lost. But I can also see that it's just as possible he could have lost a few of those close ones too.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 1:34 pm to dukke v
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that retard PJ believes is inferior to the Saints offense
It is........FACT. Do some homework MJC.
OK. Another FACT, Drew Brees has committed more INTs with a better offense. Since we can't blame the Saints defense for that. Now, please, get the frick out you geriatric mongoloid.
ETA: Intelligent people and other Saints homers, please don't highlight this post and try to argue it. I'm simply just using retard PJ's line of thinking to level with him. That's all.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 1:39 pm to Michael J Cocks
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OK. Another FACT, Drew Brees has committed more INTs with a better offense
And WITHOUT Sean Peyton. You are disregaurding what the Saints might have been had Peyton been there the whole year.
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Since we can't blame the Saints defense for that. Now, please, get the frick out you geriatric mongoloid.
Why do you get sooooo defensive when someone says something bad about Romo. I have even said good things about him and you attack me and shite. I know a poster IRL that has said YOU have some mental issues. I think they are coming out in this thread. I am just debating with ya and YOU don't like what I am saying. GROW UP.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 1:51 pm to DrVinnyBoombatz
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The stats say otherwise, but hey don't let things like facts get in your way.
Stats that are inflated due to stricter restrictions on what the defense can and can't do. And that's not just helping Romo's stats get inflated, it's helping every single QB in the NFL have inflated stats. A simply competent QB can throw for 4,000 yards if he's given enough attempts in this era of NFL football.
This post was edited on 12/24/12 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 12/24/12 at 1:56 pm to RollTide1987
Horrayyyy for me! the only 2 guys posting in this thread are the ones I didn't want umm posting in the thread. 
Posted on 12/24/12 at 2:02 pm to Michael J Cocks
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Horrayyyy for me! the only 2 guys posting in this thread are the ones I didn't want umm posting in the thread
WELL someone has to tell you the truth!!!!
Posted on 12/24/12 at 2:06 pm to Michael J Cocks
Brees, brady rodgers would probably have 2 more wins.....but the BIG difference is the playoffs....these 3 could take an underperforming cowboys team and push them deep into the playoffs. Romo has thr mental fortitude of a woman.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 2:07 pm to Michael J Cocks
P-Manning: 12-3
Aaron Rodgers: 13-2
Tom Brady: 12-3
Drew Brees: 11-4
Eli Manning: 8-7
Phillip Rivers: 6-9
Jay Cutler: 7-8
Ben Roethlisberger: 9-6
Joe Flacco: 8-7
Matt Ryan: 10-5
Matt Schaub: 7-8
The way I looked at it, the elite QBs (Manning, Rodgers, Brady, Brees) beat Baltimore, NY, NO, and Wash. I gave Rodgers another win because he is a little more mobile and that would help with y'alls horrible O-line. I gave Brees another loss bc I think he may do the same thing as Romo vs. NY the 2nd time, he sometimes has those bad games with 4 or 5 picks
I think Eli and Romo are very similar QBs
Cutler and Rivers are a little more sporadic than Romo
Big Bens a winner and I think he beats the Saints yesterday
Flacco isn't really the same as Romo but I think he gets to 8 wins anyway
Matt Ryan has been a beast this year, he may even get 11 wins I dk
Schaub I think loses last week in OT as well as this week
RGIII: 10-5
Andrew Luck: 8-7
Russel Wilson: 5-10
The rookies are hard bc who knows how they'd do in different systems
I gave RGIII 10 wins because of his mobility, it would help him out tremendously on the Cowboys
Luck would do about the same as Romo, maybe a little worse bc of his susceptibility to throw the INT
I don't think Wilson would do well, I know he's mobile but the Cowboys have leaned on the QB position A LOT this year; and without a stellar run game I don't think Wilson is ready to be the center of an Offense yet
Aaron Rodgers: 13-2
Tom Brady: 12-3
Drew Brees: 11-4
Eli Manning: 8-7
Phillip Rivers: 6-9
Jay Cutler: 7-8
Ben Roethlisberger: 9-6
Joe Flacco: 8-7
Matt Ryan: 10-5
Matt Schaub: 7-8
The way I looked at it, the elite QBs (Manning, Rodgers, Brady, Brees) beat Baltimore, NY, NO, and Wash. I gave Rodgers another win because he is a little more mobile and that would help with y'alls horrible O-line. I gave Brees another loss bc I think he may do the same thing as Romo vs. NY the 2nd time, he sometimes has those bad games with 4 or 5 picks
I think Eli and Romo are very similar QBs
Cutler and Rivers are a little more sporadic than Romo
Big Bens a winner and I think he beats the Saints yesterday
Flacco isn't really the same as Romo but I think he gets to 8 wins anyway
Matt Ryan has been a beast this year, he may even get 11 wins I dk
Schaub I think loses last week in OT as well as this week
RGIII: 10-5
Andrew Luck: 8-7
Russel Wilson: 5-10
The rookies are hard bc who knows how they'd do in different systems
I gave RGIII 10 wins because of his mobility, it would help him out tremendously on the Cowboys
Luck would do about the same as Romo, maybe a little worse bc of his susceptibility to throw the INT
I don't think Wilson would do well, I know he's mobile but the Cowboys have leaned on the QB position A LOT this year; and without a stellar run game I don't think Wilson is ready to be the center of an Offense yet
This post was edited on 12/24/12 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 12/24/12 at 2:12 pm to Michael J Cocks
Pretty much agree with TTF and Dan.
Peyton
Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Would all likely be better. However, I wonder if Romo could reach their level if he spent his career at a functional organization with consistent long-term coaching and coordinators.
I would probably take Romo over Eli, Ben, and Ryan, but those are the only other ones in Romo's tier.
Wilson and RG3 would be interesting, but they also would not do quite as well because Romo is expected to do waaaaaaaaaaaaay more than either of them. Call me when those two average 35 passes a game and maintain their percentages.
Peyton
Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Would all likely be better. However, I wonder if Romo could reach their level if he spent his career at a functional organization with consistent long-term coaching and coordinators.
I would probably take Romo over Eli, Ben, and Ryan, but those are the only other ones in Romo's tier.
Wilson and RG3 would be interesting, but they also would not do quite as well because Romo is expected to do waaaaaaaaaaaaay more than either of them. Call me when those two average 35 passes a game and maintain their percentages.
Posted on 12/24/12 at 2:15 pm to Tiger1242
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I think Eli and Romo are very similar QBs
Except in the playoffs.
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Big Bens a winner and I think he beats the Saints yesterday
What more could Romo have done?????
Posted on 12/24/12 at 2:22 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Tiger1242 and Vicks Kennel Club, thank you guys for your input!
I do however disagree with y'alls assessment that Brees would win that much more than Romo. I respect it, but I just can't seem to believe he'd do any better than 9 wins. There are just so many similarities with the Saints and Cowboys this year. Our defense has performed better in a few games and in clutch situations, but other than that, I feel like Brees would have had a few very similar games to the ones Romo played like shite, because both were forced to do too much and knew if their team was gonna win, it was all on them.
And that same factor is in effect for everyone. I don't even think the super elite guys would win 11 with this Dallas team. A current 10-5 record with what the Cowboys have now is so praise worthy it's ridiculous. For a guy to be 11-4 with this team, miracles would have to be involved.
Fire away
I do however disagree with y'alls assessment that Brees would win that much more than Romo. I respect it, but I just can't seem to believe he'd do any better than 9 wins. There are just so many similarities with the Saints and Cowboys this year. Our defense has performed better in a few games and in clutch situations, but other than that, I feel like Brees would have had a few very similar games to the ones Romo played like shite, because both were forced to do too much and knew if their team was gonna win, it was all on them.
And that same factor is in effect for everyone. I don't even think the super elite guys would win 11 with this Dallas team. A current 10-5 record with what the Cowboys have now is so praise worthy it's ridiculous. For a guy to be 11-4 with this team, miracles would have to be involved.
Fire away
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