re: A Heisman RB comparison - NICE CHART

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Conversation over. Admin- lock the thread.

Losers like ole' Lester will continue to post ad nauseum... can't be wrong! (between another wank to soft porn, World of Warcraft session, and meatloaf dinner with mom). Almost 100,000 message board posts... what a life you've created for yourself!

Out.

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ahhhhh, the sign of defeat

or the sign of im some yuppy accountant pretending to be a pro sports statistician


later, amateur

think they were talking about Auburn. could be wrong though.

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hypothetically,

If Gerhart averaged 3.4 YPC and had 1800 yards, and Ingram averaged 6.7 YPC and only had 1500 yards, does that mean Gerhart is better???

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So if he hypothetically had 2 less yards per carry? Thats a pretty fricking big hypothetical.

Hypothetically if Stanford was 12-0 and Alabama was 8-4 would this even be a be a debate? Hell no the ONLY reason Ingram is even in this is because he plays for the number one team in the nation. He was at best the 3rd best RB in the nation this year (TG and Spiller).

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So if he hypothetically had 2 less yards per carry? Thats a pretty fricking big hypothetical.

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trying to prove a point, obviously this guy is an idiot when he says all stats are not opinionated and cant be argued.

Funny, cause he didnt respond to that. Or anything else I posted.

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Hypothetically if Stanford was 12-0 and Alabama was 8-4 would this even be a be a debate? Hell no the ONLY reason Ingram is even in this is because he plays for the number one team in the nation. He was at best the 3rd best RB in the nation this year (TG and Spiller).

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yeah, and hypothetically if Ingram had just as many carries as Gerhart at the same YPC he averaged all season, he'd have over 2000 yards on the season

and would this even be a debate
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like I said, my original hypothetical was to prove a point. Try and follow the conversation. It's not meant to be realistic.

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You can't hypothetically change on the field stats and performance. That is what the award is based on.

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I didn't.

Again, it was to prove a point that stats have different variables to them.

Get the whole Ingram vs Gerhart out of your head. Plug in any RB name u want and use the same hypothetical stats i put up there and tell me who's season is better.

It was an argument about stats with AustinTiger...not about which RB was better.


And no, the Heisman isnt based all on hard stats, which is why the leading rusher or the leading passer or the national leader in TD's doesnt win it every year.

Which is the same reason Ingram deserves, because in the context of it all, he had the best year. Not statistically, because Gerharts were "better". but they dont award it on pure stats.

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ow team success has nothing to do with the award so you can use that in a hypothetically situation.

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Sadly, it does. Not my measuring stick, but it does.

Like in the thread the other night, find the last Heisman winner on a 4 loss team(Gerhart) or 5 loss team(Spiller).

IT's been at least 25 years. I stopped there. Got tired of looking.

intersting figure

Why aren't the recieving yards of the two players on your list? Ingram has over 300 yards and 3 TD's recieving.

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i like how ypc and backup viability aren't taken into account

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ypc should be, but backups should not

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So if he hypothetically had 2 less yards per carry? Thats a pretty fricking big hypothetical.

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the gap is over half a yard. thats a HUGE gap as is

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Hypothetically if Stanford was 12-0 and Alabama was 8-4 would this even be a be a debate?

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yes. see: 2007 when DMac should have won the heisman

If McFadden didn't have Felix he would have won it easy IMO.