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re: 8th grade QB throws 5 touchdowns in Alabama HS state title win

Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:59 am to
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32622 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:59 am to
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Kid throws a good ball and if (big if) his growing continues at this rate he’ll be one of those made in a lab 6’4”+ 220+ QB prospects

He really doesn’t need it to be an elite prospect though. He’ll get at least a couple more inches. At 5’11 he’s still big enough to look over the line like Brees, Russ, Kyler. And his frame will fill out. But his arm looks legit, he had some great throws there over the top
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
4843 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:01 am to
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Just think with Thompson being such a power house that this young fella could win potentially 5 state titles at the largest division of HS ball in Alabama.


Seeing this line begs a question. What are the HS eligibility rules in AL?

If he's playing varsity HS sports in the 8th grade, does he still only have 4 years of eligibility? So, in theory, he would be out of eligibility to play as a senior? Or does AL allow 5 years if you play as an 8th grader?

Not a troll. I really am curious if anyone knows.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73208 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:05 am to
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Not sure the validity of it, but saw on another board his cousins are the Tagovailoa’s. This kids family moved from Colorado.


Not sure on being related, but a long standing relationship with Tua’s family. The kid’s family is originally from Hawaii. Moved to Colorado at age 9 and then to Alabama recently. Has trained with Tua’s father for some time.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13299 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:09 am to
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Seeing this line begs a question. What are the HS eligibility rules in AL?

If he's playing varsity HS sports in the 8th grade, does he still only have 4 years of eligibility? So, in theory, he would be out of eligibility to play as a senior? Or does AL allow 5 years if you play as an 8th grader?

Not a troll. I really am curious if anyone knows.



In 8th grade, you can compete at the high school. My oldest is a freshman this year, but was able to compete in diving last year as an 8th grader. This mostly happens in smaller sports like swim/dive, volleyball, track and field etc, but they can't really allow some sports to compete and not others, so he can play varsity football for 5 years. Also depends on the schools and their size. In our suburb of Birmingham, the middle schools are large enough that they have their own football/basketball/track teams, but there was no official swim or dive team, so it was basically an extra year of practicing with a few meets thrown in to get the 8th graders experience before jumping into high school sports. In other small towns, your high school might be fairly small and it would be more common for some 8th graders to practice and get a little playing time on the varsity football team, just from a numbers perspective. You might have an oversized for their age 8th grader playing the second string. Pretty rare, but it happens. Now for the starting QB of the largest class on the state champions, extremely rare.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88412 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:10 am to
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Can you physically peak too early as a QB like someone playing a more physical position like Dylan Moses did?
Absolutely

It’s even more prevalent in skill positions like pitching or playing QB
Posted by Vacherie
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2017
459 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:15 am to
Arch Manning says, Hold my Beer.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7105 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:32 am to
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8th grade QB throws 5 touchdowns in Alabama HS state title win
This is in the biggest class for high school football in Alabama (7A) on top of that. Unreal


How can an 8th grader be on a HS football team? Seriously. And won't he have used up his eligibility by the time he's a senior?

I'm really serious in how does this work. Thompson has grades 9-12 and this kid is in 8th. How does he even go to school there?

eta: Ok...read the other post. But I think you should play where you actually attend school. It's messed up. Just play your 4 years.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 10:34 am
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
15620 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:48 am to
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For what he lacks in years, he makes up in ears.


Let his head catch up..
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
4843 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:38 pm to
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In 8th grade, you can compete at the high school. My oldest is a freshman this year, but was able to compete in diving last year as an 8th grader. This mostly happens in smaller sports like swim/dive, volleyball, track and field etc, but they can't really allow some sports to compete and not others, so he can play varsity football for 5 years. Also depends on the schools and their size. In our suburb of Birmingham, the middle schools are large enough that they have their own football/basketball/track teams, but there was no official swim or dive team, so it was basically an extra year of practicing with a few meets thrown in to get the 8th graders experience before jumping into high school sports. In other small towns, your high school might be fairly small and it would be more common for some 8th graders to practice and get a little playing time on the varsity football team, just from a numbers perspective. You might have an oversized for their age 8th grader playing the second string. Pretty rare, but it happens. Now for the starting QB of the largest class on the state champions, extremely rare.


Interesting. So they can play 5 years?

And the state can absolutely limit which sports allow 8th graders to play in HS. South Carolina does it (or did at one time); SC permits 8th graders to play at the HS level only in non-contact sports, so no football, soccer, baseball and basketball. Golf, tennis, track and field and swim/dive are all okay.
Posted by GlazedDitchdigger
Member since May 2020
75 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:01 pm to
That kid is UP-TOWN!
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:18 pm to
In MS you get 4 years of eligibility once you start high school…so 8th is a gimme. My son lettered in 8th in track but should have played, and lettered, in both football and soccer that year as well.

ETA, we held him back in kindergarten…and his 7-12th grade boys school only has ~325 kids total…and the majority aren’t there for sports.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 1:23 pm
Posted by gameovergt
Orange Park, FL via Stevenson, AL
Member since Nov 2010
1963 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:19 pm to
Bo Nix did this his 8th grade year at Scottsboro a 5a school. Beat my alma mater North Jackson 4a. But 7a is like wow!
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7105 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:35 pm to
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But 7a is like wow!


The size of schools they call 7a is just laughable. Evidently their schools are around 2,000 students give or take a few.

The smallest school in my kids district (Cy Fair) is over 2,600 students. Both of my kids had over 700 in their graduating classes. If your largest school is 2k, why do you need 7 classifications?
Posted by CarolinaSoCocky
Darkside of the Moon
Member since Dec 2012
1157 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:39 pm to
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And the state can absolutely limit which sports allow 8th graders to play in HS. South Carolina does it (or did at one time); SC permits 8th graders to play at the HS level only in non-contact sports, so no football, soccer, baseball and basketball. Golf, tennis, track and field and swim/dive are all okay.


Not sure if the rules changed but that’s not accurate. I know two 8th graders that played varsity basketball. One was really good the other was the coaches son. This was about 20 years ago
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24290 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:48 pm to
Oh he's Tua's cousin, awesome! Bama has the inside track
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13299 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:56 pm to
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If your largest school is 2k, why do you need 7 classifications?


There used to be 6, but the line between 5/6 meant that some schools had to constantly move up or down based on enrollment. Homewood was a good example, they were competitive in 5A, but every so often would get bumped up to 6A, and being in the Birmingham area meant they were grouped in with Hoover, Spain Park, Vestavia, Mountain Brook etc, and were just not competitive. 7A was created for schools above a certain enrollment, and currently there are only 32 schools. Pretty much all of them are in the larger cities, or are the only high school in a city.

All the other classes have around 60 schools, so this was just a way to separate the largest ones and keep the 5 and 6 A schools from having to compete with the big ones.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
4843 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:13 pm to
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Not sure if the rules changed but that’s not accurate. I know two 8th graders that played varsity basketball. One was really good the other was the coaches son. This was about 20 years ago


I read this in an interview with pro golfer Dustin Johnson, who said this was the rule when he was in HS.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
29915 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:18 pm to
The regions are still screwed up. Tuscaloosa and Birmingham teams in 6A are in the south and end up having to travel to Mobile or Auburn in the playoffs. It’s never made sense to me to have those teams in the south.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 5:42 pm to
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
4843 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:14 pm to
SC used to do this. They had the Big 32 as a separate division.
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