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re: #7 Oregon (53) vs. #4 Stanford (30) | FINAL
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
Can someone explain to me WHY it is a foregone conclusion that if OU beats OSU they will finish higher than Oregon?
I mean, I know the voters will "want" to have OU finish higher, and thus rank them higher. But it seems like it is a bunch of group think. Media and fans are all saying OU will finish higher(just because they presume this), and the voters are catching on and will certainly make it so. Seems unfortunate.
OU losing to TT is so horrid, and Oregon losing to LSU so early in the season looks pretty good.
I just don't see any reason other than the voters favor OU for no real apparent reason.
I mean, I know the voters will "want" to have OU finish higher, and thus rank them higher. But it seems like it is a bunch of group think. Media and fans are all saying OU will finish higher(just because they presume this), and the voters are catching on and will certainly make it so. Seems unfortunate.
OU losing to TT is so horrid, and Oregon losing to LSU so early in the season looks pretty good.
I just don't see any reason other than the voters favor OU for no real apparent reason.
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Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:32 pm to Flair Chops
Can Oregon work the clock? If they start with their usual 3and outs they could let Stanford back in this.
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:32 pm to ATLienTiger
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WHY it is a foregone conclusion that if OU beats OSU they will finish higher than Oregon?
1. rematch factor
2. pollsters love fricking OU, so they'd be the team
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
Bust em up Oregon!
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
How are they having so much problem on their own field. people slipping all over the place.
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:36 pm to castorinho
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How are they having so much problem on their own field
I was wondering this too. No excuse since it's their home field and they should be used to it.
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:36 pm to castorinho
still slipping. 
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:36 pm to c on z
Man, stay on your feet.
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:37 pm to castorinho
Another slip....get the fricking right cleats. Wait actually don't.
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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1. rematch factor
I can understand that.
quote:
2. pollsters love fricking OU, so they'd be the team
Why is this so? It seems like OU and Texas are year in and year out ranked so high in pre-season polls, and then OU is always forced back up in the rankings late in the season despite losing a game(s).
It just seems like none of these voters are voting objectively and are just going on the OU "name"
I wonder how it will be if OU beats OSU and is ranked 2nd in the polls, and Oregon is ranked 3rd in the polls. How much ground can Oregon make up in the computers.
But I doubt the voters allow that to even happen. They would purposefully rank Oregon below Alabama even(down to 4th), just to avoid the rematch like you said.
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:39 pm to ATLienTiger
TD!!
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:39 pm to c on z
Stanford hasn't given up yet.
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:40 pm to ATLienTiger
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Why is this so?
i dunno. they love some OU
quote:
It just seems like none of these voters are voting objectively and are just going on the OU "name"
if you remove the rematch teams, you're left with
OU/OSU/Stanford
OU/OSU will have a winner
Stanford will have lost to Oregon
so it's the OU/OSU winner for reasons basically being they're "disinterested"
OU being OU just makes it easier
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
Motherfrick
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:40 pm to castorinho
Only a 2 score game with an entire quarter left to go. Stanford can afford to give up a FG even.
But that being said, Stanford's defense gives you no confidence they will be able to stop Oregon's offense.
But that being said, Stanford's defense gives you no confidence they will be able to stop Oregon's offense.
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:40 pm to LSUTigerfaninHtown
Really quiet crowd
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:43 pm to ATLienTiger
quote:
I wonder how it will be if OU beats OSU and is ranked 2nd in the polls, and Oregon is ranked 3rd in the polls. How much ground can Oregon make up in the computers.
Oregon's only shot is the human polls, OU will be ahead in the computers.
quote:
I can understand that.
That's all there is to it. If you understand that then idk why you're still confused, the only reason why OU could make it is because they won't allow a rematch especially how they happened (LSU-Oregon wasn't close and Bama lost at home). Heck Michigan lost at 3 on the road a few years back and they weren't given another shot.
I initially thought Boise would finally get the nod over Bama (rematch), Oregon (rematch), OU (ugly loss); but them losing today opened the door for OU.
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
So after this game, Oregon beating Stanford, how do you see the rankings shaping up?
1. LSU, 2. OSU, 3. Bama, 4.?, 5.?
Oregon would have to hop OU for the 4th spot after beating such a high ranked team in Stanford right?
It's just crazy how everyone knows that all will be "sorted out" come the final week, that somehow OU will hop over Bama, and Oregon after defeating OSU.
1. LSU, 2. OSU, 3. Bama, 4.?, 5.?
Oregon would have to hop OU for the 4th spot after beating such a high ranked team in Stanford right?
It's just crazy how everyone knows that all will be "sorted out" come the final week, that somehow OU will hop over Bama, and Oregon after defeating OSU.
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:47 pm to ATLienTiger
Oregon doing a good job with the clock, surprisingly.
Posted on 11/12/11 at 9:47 pm to castorinho
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That's all there is to it. If you understand that then idk why you're still confused, the only reason why OU could make it is because they won't allow a rematch especially how they happened (LSU-Oregon wasn't close
Because I would assume quite a few media/voters alike would all bring up the "it was the 1st week debate." And even though the game wasn't close, as most of us know, that game would be such a long time ago some people would only look to the scoreboard and see it was just an 13 point loss.
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Oregon's only shot is the human polls, OU will be ahead in the computers.
Thanks for that. I just figured that OU losing to TT who keeps on losing would extremely hurt their numbers, and that Oregon losing to the #1 ranked team in LSU wouldn't hurt them all too much. And that their best victories would be Oregon over the at the time #4 and OU over the #2 at the time OSU isn't too much of a gap...
On a side note, we've somehow escaped having Boise and other small schools making the BCSCG by having 2 big schools undefeated, but have had to hear that debate on whether or not those small schools deserve a shot. Now after this season it looks like we will have a new debate on rematches, since Bama and Oregon could both have a good enough resume to make an argument for getting in over OU.
This post was edited on 11/12/11 at 9:50 pm
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