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re: 4th and inches call decided the game

Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:30 am to
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44797 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:30 am to
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I was hoping the Bills won and I don’t think he got it.


It's probably your fault then. Grow up.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18913 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:38 am to
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Either way, bad call for sure. Worst one of the game IMO.

There’s no way to know for certain. You can’t tell if there is possession from the video. You saying this is is for sure a bad call is the same as me saying the 4th down was for sure a bad call.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52173 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:40 am to
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There’s no way to know for certain. You can’t tell if there is possession from the video. You saying this is is for sure a bad call is the same as me saying the 4th down was for sure a bad call.


You’re allowed to say it was a bad call. I haven’t once said your opinion that it was a first is wrong or that you have no argument.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 10:44 am
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28424 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:54 am to
For those that may know, have they ever looked into a laser of some sort in the ball that can show exactly where the ball got to for plays like this and goal line situations?

Seems like an easy fix to me if the technology exists, which I’m sure it does.

Seems silly and archaic that everyone including refs have to do the impossible and effectively “guess” exactly where the ball got to.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 10:58 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111336 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:01 am to
This was something Romo brought up then poof forgotten about

Chiefs were egregiously lining up in the neutral zone

Posted by gdzgft28
Member since Nov 2015
943 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:07 am to
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Straight nonsense, neither player fully possessed a ball that touched the ground. It was an incomplete pass.


How did neither player have possession? You don’t have to have two hands on the ball to “possess” the ball.
Posted by Rabbs and QStick
Texas
Member since Apr 2012
3034 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:08 am to
Boosie, your screenshot is at a angle. Its not as definitive as you think it is. Look at the line at the bottom. It clearly can make the ball look further right than it really is at that angle.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62998 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:20 am to
One thing that can't be ignored is how Dalton Kincaid was involved on all of the big plays that went against the Bills.

#1, didn't catch the 4th down pass that was catchable.

#2, didn't reach out on the 3rd down pass that was a borderline first down as is.

#3, got folded up on the 4th down play when he was behind Josh Allen not even engaging with a defender. How do you go down in that situation and not provide any help getting the extra inches needed.

He's in Mark Andrews territory IMO for failing to deliver.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216454 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:41 am to
I agree with this…..
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18913 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:02 pm to
Is this better?

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111336 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:26 pm to
If RB10 doesn’t respond to this he is a fraud

Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:31 pm to
The true believers are either going to ignore that or call you a pussy
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52173 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:52 pm to
Looks like he’s across the 40 there, but not by much. Picture is also at an angle.

What was the actual line to gain? It’s not just “the 40 yard line”. If it the 39.5, he’s still short.

Once again, you’re posting a picture that doesn’t really show anything.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40330 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:56 pm to
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What was the actual line to gain? It’s not just “the 40 yard line”. If it the 39.5, he’s still short.



closer to 40.5 if anything.

play before

Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18913 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:00 pm to
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Looks like he’s across the 40 there

quote:

Once again, you’re posting a picture that doesn’t really show anything.

Incredible
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18684 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:02 pm to
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hat picture doesn’t tell me he got it

Is the ball in his right or left arm? You can’t tell? Neither can I.


And as we've been told ad nauseum, the line on t.v. is not necessarily where the actual line to gain is.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52173 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:03 pm to
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Incredible


Not really. It’s actually pretty simple.

Angles skew things. The shot from straight down the LOS shows Allen’s head barely got to the 40. Maybe just barely past it. That shot from above shows his head is almost a half yard past it, because it’s angled from behind.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 1:04 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111336 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:05 pm to
The other indefensible thing is the nfl has and is allowed to merge two different angles with time stamps

You can see below. At the time Allen is even with the chiefs player head across the line to gain the overhead image shows the ball is past his forearm

It’s clear man, just admit it



Will be interesting for you to try and wiggle out of this. The merged pictures make it DEFINITIVE
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 1:08 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52173 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:07 pm to
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It’s clear man, just admit it



Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111336 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:08 pm to
Is the ball even with Allen’s helmet on the overhead view? Does the sideline view show his helmet across the line to gain?

Try and be honest
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