re: 2025 Indycar and IMSA Thread (Indycar Toronto)

It's worth listening to Pato's press conference after qualy. He is pumped, and very candid in his answers.

He is especially candid about his feelings about Penske's shenanigans. He believes that if they were caught cheating on Sunday, guaranteed the cheat was there on Saturday, so he thinks they should have been disqualified from Saturday's results as well and forced to do the Last Chance Qualifying on Sunday. Man, this is so worth listening to.

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Short of a full DQ which would never happen, this is a good move. Wonder how long it will take them to get up front?

ETA: they should put Abel back in the field and let all 34 of them run. Was looking forward to seeing the Miller High Life car, but he's probably a safety liability on the track with how slow he was...as well as Veekay

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Can someone explain this like Im 5 so I can devlope my own level of Penske hate? Im really confused.

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1. Penske owns the 2 cars involved in the illegal black/white rules re: modification to the car. Penske also owns the McGlaughin car that wrecked in practice ahead of final qualifying but supposedly his car was not modified as the other 2. Team didn't have time to build another car in time to make final qualifying.

2. Penske also owns the Indy Car series

3. Penske also owns the Indianapolis Motor Speedway

So basically, the fox is in the henhouse type of deal because the race/inspection/procedures are not carried out by an unbiased 3rd party governing organization.

Car 1 perp (Will Power) "passed" inspection but sounds like it was iffy and inspector had questions but passed him through anyway. Car 2 perp (Newgarden) had same issue and inspector calls a TO while in inspection. Meanwhile, Power's crew pulls the attenuator out on pit road after "passing" inspection and starts grinding the sealing they put around the attenuator off as result of Newgarden's car being caught...Also totally against the rules to modify anything other than tire pressures/wing angles after passing inspection. Chip Gnassi (owner of other dominate Indy Car team) calls the BS out while on pit road. shite show ensues...

Is this gonna be a big deal or will it blow over? Apparantly the car Newgarden won with last year is on display at an on site museum and people are saying it has the same modification. Will they strip him of his win?

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Is this gonna be a big deal or will it blow over? Apparantly the car Newgarden won with last year is on display at an on site museum and people are saying it has the same modification. Will they strip him of his win?

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Have not seen that, but will be interesting to follow

ETA: couple that with the P2P (push to pass) scandal involving the same teams last year, it could get very interesting

this is spiraling out of control

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This is the kind of shite that broke up CART

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RP has got to divest from the series ASAP

I love that he is the owner of the IMS , he's the perfect steward to ensure it maintains its status as the greatest racecourse in the world. He also has a solid track-record as a track owner so that precedent has been set.

I also hope he/the family continue to own Team Penske- a brand as legendary as Scuderia Ferrari, Mclaren, Williams etc.

However, he needs to either become a minority (49% owner of Indycar) or sell teh series outright to Nascar or LIberty or another party who can take the sport to the same heights it achieved in the 1990s.

On one hand, I hate the idea of NASCAR buying it. They'd almost definitely go to playoffs, which suck. On the other hand, working in conjunction with the Cup series is probably the best way to grow. Cross promotion, double headers, etc.