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re: 2025 Indycar and IMSA Thread (Indycar Toronto)

Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:45 am to
Posted by SkiUtah420
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:45 am to
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Well, if you see a 236, it'll be just as fast as 1996. Arie Luyendyk did a practice lap at over 239 that year, in a Reynard


It was 237.498

We are getting close
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:47 am to
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 12:28 pm to
It was a practice lap, not official
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:46 pm to
So at the Indy 500 test a couple of weeks ago, Sato had one of the fastest cars, and had the fastest no-tow speed, then crashed. They had to build him a new car. This week he seemed to struggle all week to get some speed into the new car. Now that it's all on the line, this is the current leaderboard for Team Rahal:

P9 Sato 232.169
P21 Foster 230.566
P22 DeFrancesco 230.415
P31 Rahal 228.686

Since speed at Indy is mostly set-up and careful preparation, how are the cars at one team so all-over-the-place on speed? Sato is on-track to make the top 12, the young guys are a little below the middle of the pack, and Graham is in danger of not making the show yet again. (At the moment, Armstrong is not on the board, but I hear that he is cleared to drive and is expected to make a run today.)

My question is, since these four cars were all prepared by the same team, how much of the difference in speed between these guys is:

1. Preparation - some cars prepped a little more carefully to reduce drag.
2. Voodoo - just the difference between seemingly identically prepared cars.
3. Trim - Sato running less wing because he just has bigger balls.
4. Skill/Technique - These guys talk about staying ahead of the car and making in-cockpit adjustments at the right time. Also, they may be using the hybrid system differently.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:56 pm to
Every car is different. Remember IROC? There was always one or two that were fastest, no matter who was driving.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 2:35 pm to
I don't understand why there's such a big sleed discrepancy between turns 2 and 4. Marco was getting killed out of 4
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:18 pm to

I'm really hoping that Armstrong gets a run in today so we can have bump qualifying tomorrow.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:28 pm to
He supposedly headed to the tech shed
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:42 pm to
How long have they been doing this try again if you want to, but it won't count if you don't like it?
Back in the day, if you wanted another shot to go faster, your first attempt was wiped out
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:47 pm to
It was changed 5 or 6 years ago I think. Herta back out with new car

ETA you only keep your time if you get in the wait lane. If you want to skip the line, you gotta withdraw your time.

But there aren't many cars waiting this late so its kinda irrelevant IMO
This post was edited on 5/17/25 at 3:50 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:51 pm to
I guess you can do that when you barely have enough cars to fill the grid
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:53 pm to
Yeah only one car goes home and Abel is really slow so it's probably gonna be him
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:56 pm to
I know Buxton's job is to fill dead air, but man he is not providing any insight whatsoever. When you have ex-drivers as announcers, a motor-mouth like Buxton doesn't add anything but a British accent.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 3:57 pm to
Buxton is flat out all the time. He's gonna blow a valve.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 4:05 pm to
Sato going faster is significant. Other guys in the top 12 are going to be getting in line now.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 4:08 pm to
What's the fastest straightline speed been? I noticed Carpenter hit 238 at the end of the straight.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 4:34 pm to
In the lower top 12, Sato and Malukas went faster, but Power and Rosenqvist did not.

More desperate cars in Line 1 now, so the top 12 positions could be safe.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 4:53 pm to

Another nepo baby fighting for the last row tomorrow.
Posted by SkiUtah420
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 2:36 pm to
I saw a 239 from Dixon going into 3
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 3:22 pm to
Wow, controversy in the top 12 qualifying!

I missed hearing what the issue is. Who might not be able to do a qualy run?

Sato with smart hybrid usage, I think. Did some regen, then used it up on the last lap and improved his last lap speed slightly.
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