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Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:35 am to
Posted by G4LSU
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:35 am to
welp was a fun 2024 season, looking forward to the lewis leclerc drama next year.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:38 am to
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Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35456 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:16 am to
quote:

Which USA race would you consider going to?


Montreal. Seriously
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48642 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:23 am to
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Haas

Gene is a loser. His F1 + Nascar team both suck.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
44072 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:31 am to
HAAS was a whole second slower than 16th place

gonna get ugly
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
33991 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:41 am to
quote:

sarge into the gravel. he's back in form


I can't believe that dude got another year. He's not an F1 driver.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27043 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:14 pm to
For everyone's reference, Max's 2023 pole time was 1:29:708. Everyone n Q3 was sub 1:31:00
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
48488 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

Haas

When they announced that the new principal had to make improvements with no increase in resources, we knew he never had a chance.



They are running heavy on fuel for testing due to their tire wear problems last year.

And a new TP doesn't fix things in one month. Ever.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
3455 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Montreal. Seriously



Great experience. Fun town, cool track location on the island and a subway stop goes right out to it. Hard to beat a trip to Montreal for a race.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17911 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

When they announced that the new principal had to make improvements with no increase in resources, we knew he never had a chance.


Eh...while not ideal, if you have engineers, that is definitely within their job responsibilities. Make the best of the resources you have. Engineer a better way with what you have. If Haas has good engineers, it isn't a terrible thing to provide a clear outline of parameters. You get better engineered solutions with stricter limitations. Excessive resources result in brute-force solutions that have no engineering elegance.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
44072 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

They are running heavy on fuel for testing due to their tire wear problems last year


Well, that’s a little more reassuring
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Member since Nov 2012
5121 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:21 pm to
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Eh...while not ideal, if you have engineers, that is definitely within their job responsibilities. Make the best of the resources you have. Engineer a better way with what you have.

Sure, but from the outside we can only go by the stuff we read, which may or may not be high quality information. And I keep reading stuff like this:

quote:

Haas finished in a disappointing P10 last year, ultimately triggering the decision to fire team principal Guenther Steiner.

Ayao Komatsu will lead Haas this year, beginning a new chapter for the US squad. Unfortunately for the Japanese engineer, the limitations that have limited the team since 2016 still remain.

Haas F1 still spend less money than rivals, employs the fewest personnel and has the worst infrastructure.

Gene Haas described last year’s finishing result as “embarrassing”, although he simultaneously downplayed the importance of increasing funding. As outlined in previous interviews, he believes the team is underachieving.

Ayao Komatsu :“But considering the team’s current position, we don’t have what we need. If we are a small team and have a smaller budget than others, and if we don’t have a good structure as a team, there’s no way we can compete… I think the car we’ll take to Bahrain is still at the bottom."

Gene Haas is obviously unhappy with the team’s position, which is not an issue in itself. The problem at Haas is that, regardless of their targets, they are simply outgunned. Rivals are simply better equipped in every department, which is very difficult to overcome.

Perhaps their development for this year, which has been delayed after a single 2023 update in COTA, is the most brutal indictment of where Haas is.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27397 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:42 pm to
I think tomorrow is going to be most interesting. Hamilton and Perez have an assload to prove and this is where it starts.

It Perez times in the second quadrant of the lineup he's going to be in deep shite.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
48488 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:53 pm to
Something to remember when looking at the numbers; Max is two seconds behind his Q time at Bahrain last year.

They are testing. Not going for hero laps. Comparing lap times at this point is a fools errand.

Check out Haas in this graph. Does anyone really think they added so much drag to the car they are suddenly 10kph slower than the Ferrari after being even with them last year? (No, they didn't)
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Cliff Booth
Member since Feb 2021
2512 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Gene is a loser. His F1 + Nascar team both suck.


Tony is too busy drag racing and spraying guts.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
7871 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:45 pm to
Amazing how much cars have advanced:


Ayrton Senna steers his MP4/8 on the Hockenheimring racetrack during the 1993 German Grand Prix

Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2014
6563 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:49 pm to
Other teams watching the RB20
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
48488 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:55 pm to
Giuliano Duchessa
@GiulyDuchessa
Ferrari, la prima giornata della SF-24 è stata più consistente di molti mesi con la 23. Telemetria mostra potenza ridotta e carichi elevati, nessun lavoro sulla prestazione, tuttavia il miglioramento sul degrado é ritenuto significativo

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Ferrari, the first day of the SF-24 was more consistent than many months with the 23. Telemetry shows reduced power and high loads, no work on performance, however the improvement on degradation is considered significant
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27397 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:06 pm to
I do think we are going tobsee Leclerc push Max this year on more than a handful of races. I'd wager he wins at least one.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35456 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:08 pm to
Ferrari loves to tease me.
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