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Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by MikeD
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:43 pm to
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Wow. Excellent point re: Checo/Monaco 2023.


The best was when they compared the Red Bull to some of the other floors that were literally just flat
Posted by barry
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 2:18 pm to
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Teams would still have improved but not as fast. This one event cost RB way more than people realize.


Lets not forget that McLaren poached RB like crazy
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:28 pm to
I thought this was pretty hilarious. In this recent interview with Helmut Marko, he talks about JPM.

quote:

NH: When you had your Formula 3000 team one of your drivers was Juan Pablo Montoya. Was he difficult to handle and manage and how good is his son Sebastian, who was also in your program?

Marko: “Juan Pablo he came here to Graz. The first thing he asked me was which of the four McDonald’s in Graz was the best. So his food was unhealthy, he was a lazy bastard. Yeah. But he was unbelievably fast. But he made so many stupid mistakes.

“We were leading the first race in England and he crashed. Similar to his son [Seb], but the son is crashing not in the front. He is crashing more in the top ten. So we had a hard time with Juan Pablo for quite a lot of times we didn’t even talk to each other.

“Now we are good friends. And yeah, he wasted his talent, he could have been a multiple F1 world champion. His son Seb, unfortunately, doesn’t have this ultimate speed like Juan Pablo, but he compensates nearly every race.”

grandprix247.com/2024/07/10/exclusive-marko-on-verstappen-vettel-lawson-tsunoda-perez-and-the-montoyas/

Montoya was great in IndyCar, and very good in F1 but it seems like his head was never focused like the top drivers. I always thought he was a dick, but a very talented dick. I always suspected he was a lazy arse, and the reason he was attracted to NASCAR was that for oval racing the driver's weight didn't matter much (also the stock car weighed twice as much as an F1 car, so the driver weight has less effect). He got to NASCAR and his weight ballooned. I'm sure he was much happier there than F1 where he had to watch his weight.
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 10:46 pm to
Good ol' Juan




*Was watching the above live and was waiting for the morons in the booth to notice some dude just took out a jet dryer.
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
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Posted on 7/11/24 at 4:18 pm to
OT: If you aren't suffering from British fatigue yet, this weekend is the Goodwood Festival of Speed. Saturday and Sunday's timed runs are set to be fantastic weather. Thursday and Friday are basically practice and and advertising runs, but lots of F1 drivers in these cars.

$2.3M EV Lotus Crashes Instantly VIDEO LINK

Thursday Highlights LINK For F1 fans, start at 7:25 mark

Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 7/12/24 at 11:35 am to
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The future Audi driver is only worried about one thing: "I'm already doing all the work for Ocon here." When the Frenchman looks at the results of the last few races, he has one more reason to sign with Haas.


LINK

Good read.

Hulk also says if not for a mistake in turn 13 he would have qualified third or fourth. Update certainly seems to work.

This post was edited on 7/12/24 at 12:09 pm
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 7/12/24 at 1:12 pm to
Is it confirmed the Ocon is going to be in the Haas next year?
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 7/12/24 at 1:27 pm to
He's not confirmed, but Hulk's comment would seem to say he's coming to Haas.
Posted by MississippiLebowski
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Posted on 7/12/24 at 2:43 pm to
Pairing Ocon, whose terrorized every team mate he’s ever had, with the rookie Bearman doesn’t seem like a good idea to me.
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 7/12/24 at 3:39 pm to
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Pairing Ocon, whose terrorized every team mate he’s ever had, with the rookie Bearman doesn’t seem like a good idea to me.


Iron sharpens iron.



Seriously, that is a concern of mine as well.

Going to miss Hulk next year. He's performing spectacularly, 11th or better in every race minus two, making KMag look like arse.
This post was edited on 7/12/24 at 3:41 pm
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
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Posted on 7/12/24 at 5:53 pm to
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Is it confirmed the Ocon is going to be in the Haas next year?
Wtf is going on in here? Is it Silly Season now?
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 7/12/24 at 8:55 pm to
It's been silly season since Lou announced his move to Ferrari.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 7/12/24 at 8:57 pm to
A year long silly season and the most interesting season in quite a while.
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 12:14 pm to
Gene Haas is hopeful that his team can consolidate its stronger position in Formula 1’s midfield after his decision to replace his team principal Guenther Steiner with Ayao Komatsu has been followed by a more competitive 2024 season.

Steiner’s contract was not renewed at the end of last year, with Komatsu being promoted into the role ahead of the new season. After finishing at the bottom of the constructors’ championship in two of the last three years, it’s been a stronger campaign so far for Haas, with the team seventh in the standings after back-to-back sixth places for Nico Hulkenberg, and the team owner wants to cement that level of competitiveness.

“We got to this step on the mountain and we need to stay here for a while, not go back down the mountain,” Haas (pictured above) told SiriusXM. “We have good pace — our car’s not as fast as we could be or should be, but it’s as fast as we can be right now to be mid-pack. So if we can just stay there we’ll be in good shape.

“We’ll have some more upgrades coming during the year. The upgrades I think have been a lot more successful than in previous years, so hopefully that will keep us ahead of everybody else who we are racing.”

Haas says the decision to appoint a new team principal was an easy one despite Steiner having held the role since the team’s inception, saying the finishing positions had become tiresome.


“We did a lot of changes and the changes are working, so that’s good. It’s all good,” he said. “We had four years of almost being dead last, so that was enough to motivate me.”


The American was present in both Austria and Great Britain to see the pair of sixth-place finishes for Hulkenberg, and was pleased with the way his team took its opportunities, although he admitted it was bittersweet given that Hulkenberg will be leaving at the end of the season.

“It’s a good feeling. I think we kind of paced ourselves — right tire selections, right pit calls and everything else,” Haas said. “It’s all important — we didn’t make any mistakes.

“[Hulkenberg] gets every bit out of the car; we know that that’s about as fast as the car can go when he drives it. Things change, you just get used to it in racing.”

https://racer.com/2024/07/11/haas-seeing-team-changes-start-to-pay-off/
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 2:17 pm to
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“It’s a good feeling. I think we kind of paced ourselves — right tire selections, right pit calls and everything else,” Haas said. “It’s all important — we didn’t make any mistakes.

Aside from the improvements in race-day performance and consistency from the whole team, it appears that Komatsu made some no-cost management changes to improve the engineers' ability to deliver more performance on the same budget.

Earlier this season when Haas showed some good performance (but before updates were being delivered), Guenther, instead of congratulating the team on doing well, was more concerned about taking credit for the 2024 car development being done under his watch last year. But the further along we get this season, the worse Guenther looks. We saw improved Sunday performance from the drivers, pit crews, and strategists, and now we see improved performance being delivered from the factory.

It will be a real shame if Haas can't find a replacement for Hulk who can get as much out of the car as he does.


From other articles:

quote:

When the Japanese engineer completed his first interviews as team boss, he was very direct about there being areas to address. Perhaps the most significant area Komatsu has improved is integration between the team’s bases. The 48-year-old assessed that better cooperation between Haas’ different headquarters would immediately improve performance. The Haas team principal calculated that better communication would allow for his personnel to more effectively use the resources at their disposal.

Halfway through the 2024 season, the impact of this strategy is already bearing fruit. Thanks to a series of upgrades, Haas are in a far better position than at the beginning of the year.
quote:

Ferrari are not the only team to struggle with new upgrades as Aston Martin and VCARB as well brought upgrades recently but failed to make them work. Why was that not the case with Haas? Hulkenberg said: “They have just done a good job! And… they’ve worked well, they’ve worked clean.

“And every time when, you know, we put stuff on the car, it kind of works to expectation and the correlation is also not bad. So obviously, we’ve made some changes to our technical department and aero department last year and end of last year. You know, the result is this now that it kind of works better and more efficiently, it seems.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 2:41 pm to
Haaaaassssss
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 2:58 pm to
From the AMuS article I linked past page;

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This approach calls for a new working method and new structures in the technical office. "We no longer have a boss who decides everything. The ideas of all 30 of our aerodynamicists are incorporated. We talk openly with each other and don't lie to each other," says Metelli, describing the new culture.


Steiner may have been good for getting Haas a team and on the grid, but it's pretty obvious his ability beyond that was mediocre. Komatsu has completely changed the culture and how the team functions internally.

Hulk has made some comments that, while not direct, obviously point to Steiner being a problem in the past.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 7/15/24 at 12:20 am to
The reddit thread on Ralf Schumacher...
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 7/15/24 at 6:17 am to
can I get a taste of a link, good sir
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 7/15/24 at 7:16 am to
Came out as Gay on Instagram. No big deal.
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