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re: 2023 NASCAR Season Thread - 2023-24 Offseason
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:04 pm to AwesomeSauce
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:04 pm to AwesomeSauce
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Rewatch the overhead on those last restarts, that light blue number 1 is the instigator in all three restarts late that sets off a chain reaction. I like Ross, but his driving style is rewarded with how sturdy these cars are and NASCAR refuses to use the one tool they have for his style. Any weekend track if a driver is using up other drivers gets the black flag and is sent off or assessed a penalty. Without Chip getting ticked he was having to spend money on NASCAR Ross has elevated his wreckless on track behavior. NASCAR has to put a stop to it, too many times that #1 is the root cause of these issues.
Agree. He’s a cool watermelon story but he’s made so many enemies on track by dirty driving. Nascar keeps losing viewers first with clone car then with crappy cautions. Throw in woke agenda and now complete wreck fests that they encourage by innaction. If new fans watch their driver get wrecked out at the end they lose all interest in what they percieve is a rigged system.
How many new viewers tuned in to see 3 other series champs race and then watch them get destroyed by regulars. They won’t watch ever again. Nascar penalized some cars for cuttimg corners yet allowed total carnage intentional wreckng on restarts.
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Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:24 pm to broadhead
Out driving someone for the win is entertaining. Wrecking someone to win isn't.
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 3/27/23 at 7:34 pm to OU Guy
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How many new viewers tuned in to see 3 other series champs race and then watch them get destroyed by regulars.
It was stupid to keep that track on the schedule without fixing that turn or moving the start finish line. Then it was doubly stupid to bring in outsiders/outsiders show up for that race. Out of all the road courses, there was nothing in last years race that said “hey, let me show up for this one”
Nascar and the outsides got what they deserved
Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:55 pm to nvasil1
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I had to do a double take when Bubba made the "replaced" comment. He obviously isn't losing his seat anytime soon, even if he deserves to, but I have to give him a little credit for taking some accountability there.
It’s not genuine though.
The guy is a head case. Watch his interviews. Never looks at the camera or reporter. Stares into space with no logical train of thought.
Let him have a couple good runs and he’ll give some weird interviews where he’s back beating the nobody believed in us drum.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 7:24 am to prostyleoffensetime
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The guy is a head case.
This is Bubba’s biggest problem as a driver. I believe he has the talent to be good each year and be a consistent playoff contender. However, he doesn’t have it mentally. He gets frustrated to easily when things don’t go right and it seems he doesn’t know how to adjust or block out things mentally.
Early in his career I tried to be a fan of his but this is why I never could become a fan. Although 23XI is still a fairly new team, I think he is in good equipment and has the resources to be successful and be a consistent playoff contender but mentally he is weak.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 8:05 am to CobraCommander83
quote:I think it helps him having a teammate who can help with setups and how to attack the track, also I can see it being a detriment. If Reddick gets hot I could see Bubba getting deeper into his head and spiraling into one of his woe is me slumps where he is a hindrance to himself and anyone around him on the track.
Although 23XI is still a fairly new team, I think he is in good equipment and has the resources to be successful and be a consistent playoff contender but mentally he is weak.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:20 am to Hurricane Mike
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It was stupid to keep that track on the schedule without fixing that turn or moving the start finish line
Create a yellow line rule similar to Daytona and Dega. Drop below the line in turn one and you get a drive through.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:24 am to CobraCommander83
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This is Bubba’s biggest problem as a driver.
Agree. I think he has talent (definitely so on the plate tracks), but he is in his own head a lot. He’s either arrogant and loving himself, or he’s hating himself and saying that he should lose his job. He needs to relax, take a deep breath, and keep on working to get better.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:24 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
Down 600k yoy. Even with 2 F1 stars and Chase/Guenther in booth and 7 time champ JJ back. I ask again, where are all those woke Cali fans they catered to start season off? Losing hardcore fans left and right yet not gaining new fans even when catering to them. Maybe should have never abanoned your core fans?
Adam Stern
@A_S12
@FoxTV earned a 1.81 rating and 3.129 million viewers for Sunday's NASCAR race @COTA, down from a 2.18 rating and 3.731 million viewers last year.
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Prior races YOY:
- Clash: (Down 14.8%)
- Daytona 500: (Down 7.7%)
- Auto Club: (Down 5.6%)
- Las Vegas: (Down 12.2%)
- Phoenix: (Down 15.1%)
- Atlanta (Down 14.5%)
Adam Stern
@A_S12
@FoxTV earned a 1.81 rating and 3.129 million viewers for Sunday's NASCAR race @COTA, down from a 2.18 rating and 3.731 million viewers last year.
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Prior races YOY:
- Clash: (Down 14.8%)
- Daytona 500: (Down 7.7%)
- Auto Club: (Down 5.6%)
- Las Vegas: (Down 12.2%)
- Phoenix: (Down 15.1%)
- Atlanta (Down 14.5%)
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:46 pm to AwesomeSauce
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Rewatch the overhead on those last restarts, that light blue number 1 is the instigator in all three restarts late that sets off a chain reaction.
They asked him how he got from 25th (somewhere around there) up to the top 5 so quick.
Just watch the replays. Melonhead is a clown.
What they need to do at COTA is put an alternate corner, with a wider radius, to the inside of turn one. Many road courses have multiple track layouts because open wheel, "stock" cars and motorcycles all have different requirements for good racing.
Having full bodied cars all sail into a 40mph, or less, corner 5 and 6 wide is just asking for a bumpercar shitshow.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 3:11 pm to BuckyCheese
Just have single file restarts in last 10 laps of race?
Posted on 3/29/23 at 10:30 am to OU Guy
Hendrick fines are being heard today on appeal. Should know later today/tonight if any reduced.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 2:17 pm to OU Guy
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Just have single file restarts in last 10 laps of race?
The old down finger restart from the days when you could race back to the caution.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 3:29 pm to PJinAtl
The Hendrick penalty has been amended to remove the points penalties
Hendrick statement
Nascar statement
Hendrick statement
Nascar statement
This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 3/29/23 at 3:31 pm to OU Guy
Updated playoffs
Posted on 3/29/23 at 3:45 pm to OU Guy
Had a feeling this would be the outcome.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 3:55 pm to OU Guy
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The Hendrick penalty has been amended to remove the points penalties
Someone put Lonnie on suicide watch.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 3:58 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Someone put Lonnie on suicide watch.
He may delete his account after this lol.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:15 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
quote:you have it or you don't. He doesn't. He just plowed through everyone sideways on the restart. He has no idea what he's doing
He needs to relax, take a deep breath, and keep on working to get better.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 5:54 pm to UncleFestersLegs
Chastain started all this chain reaction he needs to pay his teamates fine:
Daniel Suarez was assessed a $50,000 fine from NASCAR following his post-race actions from this past weekend’s Cup Series’ EchoPark Automotive Grand Prix at Circuit of the Americas. The penalty stems from the 31-year-old star from Monterrey, Mexico, bumping into the rear bumper of Alex Bowman’s No. 48 Hendrick Motorsports entry on pit road at the conclusion of the event in Austin.
The issue occurred during the second of three overtime attempts, when Bowman, who restarted on the fourth row and inside the top 10, made a move to the left side of Suarez’s No. 99 Trackhouse Racing entry for position entering the first turn’s braking zone. Through the braking zone, Suarez’s teammate, Ross Chastain, bumped and pushed Bowman into Suarez, which the contact carried forth into Suarez hitting Joe Gibbs Racing’s Martin Truex Jr. as Truex was sent for a spin while Suarez jammed on the brakes to avoid Truex. In doing so, he was relegated to the tail end of the lead lap field and limped his No. 99 entry back to pit road with a flat left-front tire.
At the conclusion of the event, which was extended to a third overtime restart before being won by 23XI Racing’s Tyler Reddick, Suarez, who was poised for a top-five run, finished in 27th place while Bowman and Chastain proceeded to finish third and fourth, respectively. During the cooldown lap, however, Suarez tracked both competitors and bumped into the rear of Chastain’s No. 1 Trackhouse entry prior to entering pit road, where he then proceeded to hitting Bowman’s rear bumper three times before the latter jammed on the brakes with NASCAR officials present near the contact. Suarez would exchange brief words with Bowman before expressing his displeasure towards his teammate Chastain.
Daniel Suarez was assessed a $50,000 fine from NASCAR following his post-race actions from this past weekend’s Cup Series’ EchoPark Automotive Grand Prix at Circuit of the Americas. The penalty stems from the 31-year-old star from Monterrey, Mexico, bumping into the rear bumper of Alex Bowman’s No. 48 Hendrick Motorsports entry on pit road at the conclusion of the event in Austin.
The issue occurred during the second of three overtime attempts, when Bowman, who restarted on the fourth row and inside the top 10, made a move to the left side of Suarez’s No. 99 Trackhouse Racing entry for position entering the first turn’s braking zone. Through the braking zone, Suarez’s teammate, Ross Chastain, bumped and pushed Bowman into Suarez, which the contact carried forth into Suarez hitting Joe Gibbs Racing’s Martin Truex Jr. as Truex was sent for a spin while Suarez jammed on the brakes to avoid Truex. In doing so, he was relegated to the tail end of the lead lap field and limped his No. 99 entry back to pit road with a flat left-front tire.
At the conclusion of the event, which was extended to a third overtime restart before being won by 23XI Racing’s Tyler Reddick, Suarez, who was poised for a top-five run, finished in 27th place while Bowman and Chastain proceeded to finish third and fourth, respectively. During the cooldown lap, however, Suarez tracked both competitors and bumped into the rear of Chastain’s No. 1 Trackhouse entry prior to entering pit road, where he then proceeded to hitting Bowman’s rear bumper three times before the latter jammed on the brakes with NASCAR officials present near the contact. Suarez would exchange brief words with Bowman before expressing his displeasure towards his teammate Chastain.
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