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re: 2023 NASCAR Season Thread - 2023-24 Offseason
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:39 pm to InkStainedWretch
Posted on 5/22/23 at 10:39 pm to InkStainedWretch
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Don’t disagree with you a bit. Bubba is a unique case, though, as we all know. And that is as far as I want to go down that particular path.
I like a bad guy in the sport, but Bubba just pisses me off. He was handed a golden opportunity to grow the sport in a transformational way and instead he is more comfortable being a race baiting a-hole. I want to like him, but he's just a piece of shite and it has nothing to do with his skin color.
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:58 pm to TigerFanatic99
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I want to like him, but he's just a piece of shite and it has nothing to do with his skin color
Totally agree. I'm convinced that he, and/or someone in his sphere of influence, decided he should lean into the noosegate story solely because the political environment was ripe for him to cash in.
And as Ink posted earlier, he has now foolishly chosen to embrace this wrestling heel persona. That doesn't work for a guy who has never been a championship contender. Nearly all the best villains are, or have been.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:28 am to nvasil1
I’ve not watched NASCAR as much as I used to, but besides the whole issue with the man’s race, why is Bubba the villain in NASCAR? Because if they’re booing him just because he is a different race, then there’s no place for that.
I watched North Wilkesboro mainly because Harvick was running the old 29 scheme but my observations were that the drivers acted more like open wheel racers at Indy and they were all children. They all spoke well and made a good product for corporate America. I question if they are the best of the best drivers. Also they must be getting paid well because they weren’t driving like it was a Winner Take All Million Dollar purse. I remember those days where folks would have gotten wrecked and run over for a million bucks. Just not the same intensity as it used to be. It reminded me of Indy Car / Formula 1 type racing.
I watched North Wilkesboro mainly because Harvick was running the old 29 scheme but my observations were that the drivers acted more like open wheel racers at Indy and they were all children. They all spoke well and made a good product for corporate America. I question if they are the best of the best drivers. Also they must be getting paid well because they weren’t driving like it was a Winner Take All Million Dollar purse. I remember those days where folks would have gotten wrecked and run over for a million bucks. Just not the same intensity as it used to be. It reminded me of Indy Car / Formula 1 type racing.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:09 am to Flyingtiger82
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They all spoke well and made a good product for corporate America. I question if they are the best of the best drivers. Also they must be getting paid well because they weren’t driving like it was a Winner Take All Million Dollar purse. I remember those days where folks would have gotten wrecked and run over for a million bucks.
There aren’t many drivers in this generation that are going to get out there and bang fenders and fight and claw for the win. With North Wilkesboro being a one lane track essentially, that’s what you have to do. So they mostly just rode in line. Of course, the current car isn’t that great for close racing on short tracks, either.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:12 am to Roll Tide Ravens
Something I was thinking about today with the Indy 500 and Coke 600 being this weekend.
Let’s say next year Kyle Larson (or any other NASCAR driver that attempts the double in the future) somehow manages to wins the Indy 500. Obviously with winning it comes all of the celebrations and post race media obligations. How would Larson or any other NASCAR driver possibly be able to run the Coke 600 after winning the Indy 500? It seems like it would be a logistical impossibility. It’s already hard enough making it work just running the Indy 500 when you don’t win it. Do you accept that you will miss starting the Coke 600 and that could mean that you will not be eligible for the Cup Series playoffs? Does NASCAR grant a waiver since it was the driver’s choice to take a chance on missing the start of the Coke 600?
Let’s say next year Kyle Larson (or any other NASCAR driver that attempts the double in the future) somehow manages to wins the Indy 500. Obviously with winning it comes all of the celebrations and post race media obligations. How would Larson or any other NASCAR driver possibly be able to run the Coke 600 after winning the Indy 500? It seems like it would be a logistical impossibility. It’s already hard enough making it work just running the Indy 500 when you don’t win it. Do you accept that you will miss starting the Coke 600 and that could mean that you will not be eligible for the Cup Series playoffs? Does NASCAR grant a waiver since it was the driver’s choice to take a chance on missing the start of the Coke 600?
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 10:15 am
Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:21 am to Roll Tide Ravens
I’ve seen Tony Stewart place high in the Indy and then catch a plane directly to the track in Charlotte.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:47 am to Flyingtiger82
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I’ve seen Tony Stewart place high in the Indy and then catch a plane directly to the track in Charlotte.
Right, and I get that is possible. What I am talking about is the specific situation where the NASCAR driver (who is competing for the Cup title) ends up winning the Indy 500.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 11:04 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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Melt.
You don't find it the least bit ironic that this group expressing their interest in Nascar is always moaning about the bad guy and yet have Dale Senior as their national hero?
People are about as fickle as they come.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 11:15 am to Roll Tide Ravens
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Right, and I get that is possible. What I am talking about is the specific situation where the NASCAR driver (who is competing for the Cup title) ends up winning the Indy 500.
To me, the goal is to win both. That would be an incredible feat and a daunting task. If Larson were to win Indy he would leave the track as soon as possible. I'm sure he would miss the drivers meeting which would cause a start from the rear.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:09 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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Something I was thinking about today with the Indy 500 and Coke 600 being this weekend. Let’s say next year Kyle Larson (or any other NASCAR driver that attempts the double in the future) somehow manages to wins the Indy 500. Obviously with winning it comes all of the celebrations and post race media obligations. How would Larson or any other NASCAR driver possibly be able to run the Coke 600 after winning the Indy 500? It seems like it would be a logistical impossibility. It’s already hard enough making it work just running the Indy 500 when you don’t win it. Do you accept that you will miss starting the Coke 600 and that could mean that you will not be eligible for the Cup Series playoffs? Does NASCAR grant a waiver since it was the driver’s choice to take a chance on missing the start of the Coke 600?
Couple of notes:
In the past when a driver did double Indy worked with Nascar and TV to have the times spread out. I think Indy moved start time up an hour and Nascar back an hour. Would have to go back and check.
And the Nascar team will have a backup driver on standby. They could get hurt as much as win Indy. And worst case is they win Indy and backup driver starts Nascar. Then during a caution (have stages now) could change drivers at Nascar race. If they can’t get any Nascar time at least they win Indy. Would be good press. Likewise, I’d like to see an Indy driver do the double
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 5/23/23 at 3:13 pm to bamameister
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You don't find it the least bit ironic that this group expressing their interest in Nascar is always moaning about the bad guy and yet have Dale Senior as their national hero? People are about as fickle as they come.
Who said Dale Sr was their driver? I think most have respect for him after his death even if they didn’t like him at the time. And its a sporting thing, it wasn’t so much they hated him rather they had another driver and didn’t root for him. And all sports fans tradh talk other drivers. Dale Sr was not my driver back then.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 12:00 am to OU Guy
“Require”
Bob Pockrass
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After the Xfinity race Saturday on the Chicago street course, NASCAR is requiring all Cup drivers to appear on the concert stage prior to The Chainsmokers concert (the concerts in the park are part of the weekend ticket) in hopes of getting them in front of a likely new audience.
Bob Pockrass
@bobpockrass
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After the Xfinity race Saturday on the Chicago street course, NASCAR is requiring all Cup drivers to appear on the concert stage prior to The Chainsmokers concert (the concerts in the park are part of the weekend ticket) in hopes of getting them in front of a likely new audience.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 12:01 am to OU Guy
Bob Pockrass
@bobpockrass
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Charlotte Motor Speedway says its grandstands and camping are sold out for the 600 on Sunday. Standing-room-only and premium terrace box tickets remain for Sunday.
@bobpockrass
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Charlotte Motor Speedway says its grandstands and camping are sold out for the 600 on Sunday. Standing-room-only and premium terrace box tickets remain for Sunday.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 6:55 am to OU Guy
NASCAR is so excited about a new audience and keep telling older fans to frick off.
They have seemed to forget that the older generation would actually bring along the next generation.
They have seemed to forget that the older generation would actually bring along the next generation.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 7:23 am to TigerFred
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NASCAR is so excited about a new audience and keep telling older fans to frick off. They have seemed to forget that the older generation would actually bring along the next generation.
They just spemt the last 2 weeks going back to their core fans and this week will honor hero’s who lost their lives (core fans again). And then go to Chicago in June and stop catering to their core fans. They don’t know what they want to be and are losing core fans yet not getting the new ones who have no sport loyalty.
Its a self destruction path.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 7:31 am to TigerFred
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They have seemed to forget that the older generation would actually bring along the next generation.
Yeah I'm sure the younger generation is really gonna be sold on watching NASCAR by the boomers telling them "the drivers are pussies now, the racing is worse, the cars aren't as fast, and by the way your generation is destroying the country"
NASCAR needs to fix the racing at certain venues, and they need to actually advertise and get new people to the track. I should be hearing about Talladega coming up constantly here in Birmingham and I don't. They also need to be on the same channel as much as possible and give people streaming options, they need to buy into the gambling aspect like other sports (plus NASCAR DFS is top tier anyway), and they need to make their own Drive to Survive and just watch the money print itself.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:33 am to OU Guy
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Who said Dale Sr was their driver? I think most have respect for him after his death even if they didn’t like him at the time.
Dale Senior is the poster child for Nascar on the rant.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 12:57 pm to bamameister
Related to the Larson Dega crash:
Bob Pockrass
@bobpockrass
Here are locations of where teams can add gusset plates (provided by NASCAR & welded in place by teams) to strengthen passenger-side area. It is optional. Does add a few pounds. Some teams likely will wait to see if more changes coming after NASCAR does crash testing this week.
Bob Pockrass
@bobpockrass
Here are locations of where teams can add gusset plates (provided by NASCAR & welded in place by teams) to strengthen passenger-side area. It is optional. Does add a few pounds. Some teams likely will wait to see if more changes coming after NASCAR does crash testing this week.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 1:01 pm to bamameister
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Dale Senior is the poster child for Nascar on the rant.
I had no idea, wasn’t here at the time. Awesome Bill was my driver back then. Dale Sr wasn’t. Liked other drivers too but Bill was my driver. Back then car type played into it way more than now.l, I was a Ford guy. But now since Nascar ruined the car wars its just driver that matters not brand of car.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 6:26 pm to OU Guy
Happy 33rd birthday to Joey Logano.
Only three drivers in NASCAR’s modern era have won more races before their 33rd birthday than Logano.
Only three drivers in NASCAR’s modern era have won more races before their 33rd birthday than Logano.
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