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re: 2023 Formula 1 season Thread
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:35 am to fightin tigers
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:35 am to fightin tigers
Just getting caught up. I knew this would be a fricking disaster but wasn't exactly sure how. This has been every bit the shite show i expected.
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:36 am to SkiUtah420
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F1 is too restrictive in this regard- the budget cap has also hamstrung parity and competition as there is limited resources that can be thrown at paradigm shifting aero improvements
Yeah! Like catering!
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:38 am to billjamin
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This has been every bit the shite show i expected.
We are getting more Vegas than anyone could have hoped for.
3+ pages dedicated to 9 minutes of FP1 and a hidden FP2.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:56 am to billjamin
yep, just caught up myself.
and seems pretty screwed up sainz is penalized for a track issue.
and seems pretty screwed up sainz is penalized for a track issue.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:59 am to billjamin
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I knew this would be a fricking disaster but wasn't exactly sure how. This has been every bit the shite show i expected.
Yup. The locals in Vegas are apparently not happy about F1 any more.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:02 am to EarlyCuyler3
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I mean, how am I supposed to care when I know who's going to win before it even starts?
Bc it's Max and Red Bull. Great season!
Merc fans be sad and stfu
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:06 am to 1999
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seems pretty screwed up sainz is penalized for a track issue
It's babyback bullshite. Which is to say, exactly what i expected from FIA when i heard how bad the damage was.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:07 am to EarlyCuyler3
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The locals in Vegas are apparently not happy about F1 any more.
I was there in September and they were already pissed. Every Uber driver, dealer, waiter, etc. was over the shite.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:24 am to horsesandbulls
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We went back to the hotel and went to bed around 11pm.
Hope you're getting your money back.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:25 am to EarlyCuyler3
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Yup. The locals in Vegas are apparently not happy about F1 any more.
But someone earlier in the thread said "what does it matter whether they like it or not" in no so many words.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:33 am to Lsut81
Allegedly 1.7B being pumped into their economy. If that is true then the locals will have to get over it. Their employers want it.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:37 am to fightin tigers
we all know those claims of economic activity from sporting events are totally bogus
for context the Indianapolis Motorspeedway reports it generates $1BN in econcomic activity for Indiana… if thats the baseline aint no way a Grand Prix that will host 20-30k people per day is coming close- even with the construction costs from the paddock and track build
for context the Indianapolis Motorspeedway reports it generates $1BN in econcomic activity for Indiana… if thats the baseline aint no way a Grand Prix that will host 20-30k people per day is coming close- even with the construction costs from the paddock and track build
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:40 am to SkiUtah420
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we all know those claims of economic activity from sporting events are totally bogus
Well, do you have anything to refute that?
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thats the baseline aint no way a Grand Prix that will host 20-30k people per day
20-30k grandstand tickets sold is not equal to attendance, especially at this venue.
F1 covered the costs of the paddock. It is their new global HQ with Liberty Media.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 10:50 am to fightin tigers
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1.7B being pumped into their economy.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:06 am to fightin tigers
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Well, do you have anything to refute that?
There are plenty of resources available via google that prove that these financial projections are bogus- eapecially regarding the grand tradition of failed street races in this country.
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20-30k grandstand tickets sold is not equal to attendance, especially at this venue.
yes- so add maybe 10,000 VIPs and you still amount to the same per day attendance as a sell out App State or strong G5 school football game.
Or to make a racing comparison: a moderately attended Cup or Indycar race
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F1 covered the costs of the paddock. It is their new global HQ with Liberty Media.
Yes- everyone paying attn knows this and it will look really weird there in 3 years when the race is gone and FWONK has lost 50% of its share value
This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 11:08 am
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:12 am to Dr RC
Austin has had estimates of 1B return for each GP held there.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:12 am to fightin tigers
Toto was going off.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:20 am to fightin tigers
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Austin has had estimates of 1B return for each GP held there
And those numbers are completely inflated and not rooted in any reality as well.
Its a subjective number chamber of commerce and race promoters estimate to justify public spending/funds used to prop up the sporting event
This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:21 am to SkiUtah420
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yes- so add maybe 10,000 VIPs and you still amount to the same per day attendance as a sell out App State or strong G5 school football game.
Or to make a racing comparison: a moderately attended Cup or Indycar race
Yes, conveniently leaving out all of those in attendance at non-F1 ticketed venues based all around the track will make the numbers a lot smaller. You have been pushing that bs narrative everytime you have had a chance.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:22 am to SkiUtah420
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And those numbers are completely inflated and not rooted in any reality as well.
Its a subjective number chamber of commerce and tace promoters estimate to justify public spending/funds used to prop up the sporting event
Source: trust me bro
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