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re: 2023 Formula 1 season Thread

Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:59 am to
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:59 am to
Haas pain train incoming… Hulk currently 3rd with 2 min left in P2. Will end up P15 in actual race
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:09 am to
Was a strange P2. Seemed like no one really tried a quali-sim.

Might be everyone testing their upgrades
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 11:10 am
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:54 am to
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Might be everyone testing their upgrades


Merc better hope thats all it was, because Ham ended up what, 11th?
Posted by TexasTiger33
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:56 am to
7 tenths?!

wow
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:57 am to
I admittedly started paying closer attention in 2021, but was Merc this dominant during Hamilton’s run? Like a foregone conclusion?
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 12:24 pm to
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Hulk currently 3rd with 2 min left in P2.


They put those RB airborne pics to quick use
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 12:25 pm
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

I admittedly started paying closer attention in 2021, but was Merc this dominant during Hamilton’s run? Like a foregone conclusion?

Admittedly, I started around the same time as you, but dig into the 2016 a bit more...it seems Merc was at the very least, as dominant but possibly more dominant than RB is now. That's the year Rosberg won the championship.

Here's Rosberg's race by race results: LINK

He finished top 4 all but 3 races, and 1 was as DNF. Hamilton finished top 4 all but 4 races with 2 DNFs.


If my count is right, not counting the DNFs, both Merc's were on the podium all but 6 times.

This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 12:26 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 12:26 pm to
As much so; maybe at times more.

2014 RIC drove his arse off and still ended up 80pts out of 3rd. 2nd place was Rosberg. ETA: Merc had 5 retirements total for the season

2016 was a race of two cars with Merc having almost a 300pt advantage.

A couple years ago Paddy Lowe (Techinlcal Director in those time) did an interview and said him and Toto used to argue over the radio over how much to turn up the Merc engine. Toto wanted to win, but not by much. He was concerned the FIA would step in and handicap them.
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 12:29 pm
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

A couple years ago Paddy Lowe (Techinlcal Director in those time) did an interview and said him and Toto used to argue over the radio over how much to turn up the Merc engine. Toto wanted to win, but not by much. He was concerned the FIA would step in and handicap them.

Aren't there rumors about RB doing the same now? Not sure if I heard that as a legit rumor or just speculation.


I'm gonna enjoy it either way but it does kinda stink coming into F1 after the epic season/finish a couple of seasons ago and my new fandom seems to be coming when RB will be dominant for the next 3 or so years or whatever. I'm not sure if things can change quickly but it seems you just kinda know here that they're about to go on a run.

Like I said, it won't drive me away, I'll still enjoy it, but it would definitely be more enjoyable as a new fan if it were highly contested at the top.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 12:34 pm to
Red Bull before Merc was almost as dominate. Merc/Mclaren could throw up some challenges at times, and win some poles, but RBR was just too strong then.

Midfield has been really competitive the last two years, and other that Monaco which was strategic, most everyone can keep pace with the leaders.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 5:24 am to
quote:

Admittedly, I started around the same time as you, but dig into the 2016 a bit more...it seems Merc was at the very least, as dominant but possibly more dominant than RB is now.

In 2006 I started making tables and charts to track the F1 seasons. They give an instant overview of how a season went. The progression chart sometimes shows a driver dominating the season, and it sometimes shows that it came down to the last race. There were some incredible seasons, like 2010 and 2007! And of course there's 2008, which is becoming more infamous as Felipe Massa considers a lawsuit to claim the championship.

f1.dg42.net
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 6:03 am to
Sergeant redflags P3 and then the rain comes.

Doesn't look like we're getting anything in P3
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 6:09 am to
Considering they are saying the chance of a wet race is high I'm surprised no one is out running inters.

If I was a midfield team I'd roll the dice and put a wet setup on the car to try and catch some lightning.

eta-They did give the teams an extra set of inters but I don't recall how many set of those they have. Might not be able to burn them up in practice.
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 6:10 am
Posted by Tvilletiger
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:41 am to
How was FP3? Did not watch it do have it recorded but think I will just wait and watch qualifying at.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:43 am to
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How was FP3?


Very chatty. Cars weren't on the track for 1/2 the session or more.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:50 am to
The Williams floor is a bit...plain. They do know it's a ground effects car, right?

Posted by UltimaParadox
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:04 am to
Ferrari didn't come out right away with rain coming... I swear
Posted by Lord_Ford
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:04 am to
That was a mighty quick red flag
Posted by UltimaParadox
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:05 am to
Yeah lightning fast... Might be shortest one in memory
Posted by Lord_Ford
Louisiana
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Posted on 6/3/23 at 9:06 am to
Is that 6 cars in the rocks on lap 1? Lol
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