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Posted on 4/2/23 at 5:02 pm to
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 5:02 pm to
Thank the gods for dvr and fast forward.
Posted by TexasTiger33
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 5:02 pm to
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Thank the gods for dvr and fast forward.


Yep. ESPN app TYFYS
Posted by nola tiger lsu
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 7:28 pm to
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I love late-race, standing restarts.


GTFO
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 8:15 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 6:33 pm
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by bikerack
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 7:33 am to
Not official yet but...

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Following discussions on changes to the Sprint race weekends, the Formula 1 teams have reached an agreement on amendments to the Azerbaijan Grand Prix weekend format.

Prior to the Australian GP, it was confirmed that discussions were taking place to change the schedule for the next event in Baku, which is the first Sprint race weekend of the season.

The current Sprint weekend format, which has been used since it's inception, is to have FP1 and qualifying on the Friday, FP2 and the Sprint on Saturday, then the grand prix as usual on the Sunday.

Now, RacingNews365 understands that an agreement has been reached between the ten Formula 1 teams to alter the format to have two qualifying sessions.

Under the proposal, Saturday morning's free practice two session would be replaced by new qualifying session for the Sprint, with the existing qualifying session, which takes place on Friday afternoon remaining in place for the grand prix.

The secondary aim would be to remove an otherwise pointless FP2 session on Saturday morning, where teams are currently restricted in what they can do to the cars, owing to the parc fermé conditions from Friday afternoon's qualifying.


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The fact that the teams are in mutual agreement, however, does not mean that the idea will be put into action definitively as early as four weeks from now. F1 boss Stefano Domenicali, who proposed the idea, would still have to agree with any potential tweaks that the teams require.

RacingNews365.com Editorial Director Dieter Rencken explains that there are further hurdles if the plans are to be implemented at such short notice: "The motorsport federation will still have to agree to the ideas in the short term if they are to become reality. The ideas will first have to be discussed in the various advisory committees."

"Then it has to be approved, through a vote, by the F1 Commission, where the ten F1 teams (one vote each), the FIA (ten votes) and the F1 bosses (ten votes) all have a say. Since the rule changes would be for the very short term, the overwhelming majority of at least 28 out of 30 votes must be in favour."

"Finally, the World Motor Sport Council, the highest FIA body, will still have to give its blessing to the changes and only then can the new format be implemented."


https://racingnews365.com/f1-teams-reach-agreement-on-new-race-weekend-format
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 8:10 am to
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Under the proposal, Saturday morning's free practice two session would be replaced by new qualifying session for the Sprint, with the existing qualifying session, which takes place on Friday afternoon remaining in place for the grand prix.


So that just makes the sprint race pointless with the only exception being theyll earn points? Why not just give points in qualifying then?
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 8:30 am to
I halfway like this idea better, but it just means there is a race inside of a race now, I think....

Friday quali sets sunday grid, but saturday quali sets sprint race? I believe that is how I am reading it.
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 8:58 am to
Ya, the sprint race set the grid for the race, now it doesn't really do anything except give the leaders more points. It's a shorter glorified parade now.
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 9:04 am to
I don’t love the sprint races, but they’re a lot more entertaining than a practice session.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 9:22 am to
If they wanted to do a Sat quali for reverse grid Saturday sprint I could get behind that even.

Granted, we are talking about a lot of risk with parc ferme rules and such, which is always a bitch. Fri spriny quali, early Sat sprint, then late Sat race quali?

On paper it works maybe, but it really shortens practice/development time for teams and new drivers.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 9:37 am to
Man I can't believe Carlos got a 5 second penalty. It could have been better driving on his part but there was no room for anybody.

Formula One just needs to come out and say that the major factor in interpreting the rules is that it favors whatever the good story line is. Right now Alonso is the story line they love so they are going to protect that as much as they can. Ugh, god what a crappy ending.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 10:00 am to
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Formula One just needs to come out and say that the major factor in interpreting the rules is that it favors whatever the good story line is.


Agreed. There has always been an unwritten "punishment fits the outcome" clause. It is terrible, there is such inconsistency.

Carlos the only on to catch a punishment for all that debacle and his move was bordering racing incident.
This post was edited on 4/3/23 at 10:01 am
Posted by GumpInLex
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 10:20 am to
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Man I can't believe Carlos got a 5 second penalty.

Same exact situation that Russell got a penalty for when he took Sainz out at COTA last year. I do think it’s dumb that he was the only one penalized, because I definitely think Sargent and Gasley should get penalty points on their license. They probably didn’t penalize Gasly because that would result in him getting a race ban.
Either way, the red flag and subsequent standing start with 2 laps to go was some clown show BS. Should have just finished under safety car, or at very worst, had a rolling restart after the red flag. FOM trying to put entertainment ahead of sport with the BS standing start shootout…
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 11:01 am to
I do think it’s dumb that he was the only one penalized, because I definitely think Sargent and Gasley should get penalty points on their license.

What did Sargeant do?
Posted by Cliff Booth
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 11:06 am to
So if those changes go through, there's only one practice session the whole weekend, and you can't make changes to the car after that? Is that correct?
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 11:36 am to
F1 gonna keep tinkering. I like the current format.
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 11:40 am to
So what would be the points breakdown at the Azerbaijan sprint race?
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 2:34 pm to
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I don’t love the sprint races, but they’re a lot more entertaining than a practice session.




I agree, but they are saying under the current rules fp2 is worthless. They're just shifting the worthlessness and it's going to benefit the cars at the front. The rich get richer with the proposed setup.
Posted by GumpInLex
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 2:45 pm to
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What did Sargeant do?


Ran right up De Vries’s arse and took them both out of the race at the 2nd Red Flag Restart. They both ended up in the gravel.
He was probably distracted by the carnage in front of them, but still 100% his fault.
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