re: 2022 NASCAR Season Thread - 2022-23 Offseason

The best time to cheat is right after you’ve been caught - or so the saying goes.

Denny was passing cars with ease while HMS wasn’t that good. Denny had to start last on final restart and drove way up ladder really fast. With Toyota having so much speed recently they found something and my guess is Nascar wants to know what and if its legit.

Seems now anytime they take cars back to Nascar they will always pick Gibbs cars to prove a point who’s boss.

The race for 16th is between 2 cars who are 2nd and 4th in points.

Instead of taking top 16 just take all cars who won during season regardless car count. Either way a top 4 car (in season points) will miss the chase while a 20th place car will make the chase (Kurt). Thats gonna sting.

They take 2 cars for random inspection at the R&D center from every race. The finishing position of the random cars is picked by nascar before the race is over

The thing is they changed points due to Kennseth not winning so I don’t see them going back. Since then they have always said winning will be valued more than points.

One note, it should be illegal to drive and own or have a big stake in another car/group. The Hamlin 23x is not good for sport. Imagine last race before chase you have Truex and Bubba side by side with Hamlin 4 cars back. Last lap. Hamlin comes up and and is running alone in top line where Truex is and instead of staying in line pushing teamate Truex he moves down and pushes Bubba to win.

Its a major confict and has already happened back in pack some but since not leader its not mentioned. If you want to own stop racing. Wonder why this isn’t talked about or asked by TV or reporters.

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They take 2 cars for random inspection at the R&D center from every race

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My position still stands.

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if he hadn't done that he'd likely be alive today.

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I'm not sure I want to hear the reasoning behind this, but go for it.

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I'm not sure I want to hear the reasoning behind this, but go for it.

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Watch the race.

He was blocking like a madman at the end of the race so his car(s) would win. If you can't see that you are willfully blind.

*I was a big Earnhardt fan, so my point of view is not colored by any fanboy hatred.

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He was blocking like a madman at the end of the race so his car(s) would win. If you can't see that you are willfully blind.

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I'm very familiar with what he was doing. I have rewatched the entire 2001 Daytona 500 several times over the years. However, you're acting like he could have avoided being three wide in turn four on the final lap if he hadn't had DEI cars that he was blocking for. I'm saying that it is very reasonable to see how what happened to him still could have happened regardless of whether he was blocking for cars he owned or not. In turn four on the final lap, Dale was three wide with Sterling and Schrader. Sterling on the bottom, Dale in the middle, Schrader on the outside. Sterling's nose was just about even with the left-rear quarter panel of Dale's car. Rusty was right behind Dale. Dale and Sterling made slight contact, which is completely normal for being three-wide in turn four on the final lap of the Daytona 500. Dale could have found himself in this situation regardless of whether he was defending for his cars or if he was just simply running third behind two other non-affiliated cars.

I understand what put him in that position in reality, but to say he would have avoided that situation if he hadn't owned the DEI cars is pure speculation. He could have easily found himself in that exact same situation without owning the DEI cars.

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Take Waltrip or Jr out of the top 3 and that race would have ended quite differently with the wreck not happening.

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So the logic has shifted from he shouldn't own the cars to he shouldnt have had relatives and friends in the field.