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re: 2021 NASCAR Season Thread - 2021-22 OFFSEASON
Posted on 7/4/21 at 6:58 pm to BuckyCheese
Posted on 7/4/21 at 6:58 pm to BuckyCheese
Alex Bowman forced a pit stop . Lucky he didn’t take out himself and Larson.
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Posted on 7/4/21 at 7:10 pm to tzimme4
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Is someone other than Eliott,Truex or Larson going to win a road course?
*yawwwwn*
Posted on 7/4/21 at 7:22 pm to pdubya76
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Alex Bowman forced a pit stop . Lucky he didn’t take out himself and Larson.
He forced a pitstop for himself.
Obviously I was talking about the fact the final stage could be completed on one tank of gas.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 7:56 pm to BuckyCheese
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Race needed about 5 or 10 more laps to force a pitstop on that last "stage". No strategy came into play.
That's fair.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:35 pm to pdubya76
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I watched the entire race. That was my least favorite road course so far this year.
4 miles is too long. If we never go back to road America, I'd be ok with it.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:36 pm to BuckyCheese
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He forced a pitstop for himself.
Obviously I was talking about the fact the final stage could be completed on one tank of gas.
I know….there was a wee bit of sarcasm in my reply. Glad his miscue didn’t take them out. That would have made for an interesting team meeting like Latarte said.
Jr didn’t like that Bowman pitted and was pretty vocal about it.
Posted on 7/4/21 at 10:00 pm to Lonnie Utah
You guys wanted NASCAR to go to different tracks, now that they have, we still aren't satisfied?
But yeah 4 miles is long.
But yeah 4 miles is long.
This post was edited on 7/4/21 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 7/5/21 at 12:07 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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Great win for Chase. This is his 7th career win on a road course, he is 3rd all-time by himself behind Smoke(8) and Gordon(9). He's gonna shatter the all-time record.
Has he ever tested for F1/Indy? Obviously F1 is a different animal, but the way this kid owns road courses at his age is pretty special. Not saying he’d be the second coming of Senna lol but may be at least competitive out there with some wheel time.
Posted on 7/5/21 at 7:30 am to MattA
I'm not sure if he has.
Would be interesting to see him try.
Would be interesting to see him try.
Posted on 7/5/21 at 9:40 am to SteelerBravesDawg
I won’t stop watching NASCAR-heck I watched Sons of Anarchy to the end. Haha!
But I’m thankful I can record the races and fast forward through 100 miles of green flag, leader out front by 8 seconds racing.
If Hendrick was winning races by .5 seconds with passes at the end etc I’d be fine. But this isn’t compelling to watch.
Contemplated tickets to the race next weekend in ATL but just don’t think it will be worth going.
As for Road America it seemed to have promise at the beginning but then it was more of the same.
But I’m thankful I can record the races and fast forward through 100 miles of green flag, leader out front by 8 seconds racing.
If Hendrick was winning races by .5 seconds with passes at the end etc I’d be fine. But this isn’t compelling to watch.
Contemplated tickets to the race next weekend in ATL but just don’t think it will be worth going.
As for Road America it seemed to have promise at the beginning but then it was more of the same.
This post was edited on 7/5/21 at 10:31 am
Posted on 7/5/21 at 10:07 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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But yeah 4 miles is long.
I'll preface this by saying I'd venture a guess that I've been a fan of NASCAR longer than most on here have been alive. I went to my first race in the 1970's. I've followed seriously for close to 40 years.
The main problem with RA and it's length was the time it took to run caution laps. While a classic venue, I never thought it was the right fit for NASCAR.
The road course influx is Nascar's response to the aero problem and cars not being able to pass on intermediate tracks. Road courses became the new short tracks. That being said, the sanctioning body has gone overboard with them. We had one exciting race at the ROVAL a few years ago in Clt, and the went crazy.
Posted on 7/5/21 at 1:29 pm to Tigertown in ATL
Only thing I'll say about Hendrick is that the other teams need to be better; that's the long and the short of it.
And I was wrong yesterday. I said that Hendrick had won 6 IAR but they have won 5 of the last 6. I had forgot about Ky.Busch winning at Pocono last week.
And I'll be at AMS on Sunday.
And I was wrong yesterday. I said that Hendrick had won 6 IAR but they have won 5 of the last 6. I had forgot about Ky.Busch winning at Pocono last week.
And I'll be at AMS on Sunday.
This post was edited on 7/5/21 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 7/5/21 at 1:34 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Only thing I'll say about Hendrick is that the other teams need to be better; that's the long and the short of it.
That’s true. It’s equipment and setup that is winning now.
Not only that certainly but when the margins are this great, it’s not a talent discrepancy.
As an aside, I know I am biased. But I got my 80 year mom to watch this year. She was hooked early, but with no influence from me at all, she is getting bored with it. Which I am bummed about.
Posted on 7/5/21 at 2:44 pm to Lonnie Utah
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The main problem with RA and it's length was the time it took to run caution laps. While a classic venue, I never thought it was the right fit for NASCAR.
They are too stupid to modify their rules for number of caution laps to fit the track. There is no need to run a full lap of caution before opening the pits after picking up the leader. And then multiple laps after the pitstops.
And they don't adjust the speed of the pace car.
For the Indy race the pace car hauls arse and it doesn't take 7 minutes to complete a caution lap. Nascar runs the pace car around at 35mph or so for no reason.
The length of the track isn't a problem. Nascar's refusal to take that length into account when under caution is the problem.
One other thing that isn't so obvious. Nascar refuses to do local yellows. The Road America track crew is famous for their "hot pulls", meaning getting cars off track/out of the sand pits without the need of a full course caution. They are very efficient and fast. Until Nascar shows up. Then they are not allowed on the track until all of the cars are lined up behind the pace car under yellow.
Knowing how they CAN do it, makes it excruciating to watch Nascar at this track. And it is 100% on Nascar.
Posted on 7/5/21 at 3:54 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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If Hendrick was winning races by .5 seconds with passes at the end etc I’d be fine. But this isn’t compelling to watch.
I haven't sat and watched a whole race in months, which sucks because I really used to love NASCAR. The intermediate tracks are awful because of the car and the road courses suck because they're driving cars the size of Crown Vic's instead of sportier cars that handle better - problems that will hopefully be solved with the next gen car. I just looked at the ratings for the last few weeks and it looks like I'm not the only one not watching, the fist Pocono race last weekend had a sub 1.0 rating. I don't think I've ever seen ratings that low.
Posted on 7/5/21 at 4:10 pm to Horsemeat
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The intermediate tracks are awful because of the car and the road courses suck because they're driving cars the size of Crown Vic's instead of sportier cars that handle better
Every now and then they have a shot of the pace car in front of the field that really shows the size of the cars. A Camaro pacing in front of two Nascar "Camaros" is almost comical as the street Camaro isn't a small car and the Cup car is much larger/wider.
The new car should be much better for road course work. They'll have much bigger brakes for one.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 7:11 am to Tigertown in ATL
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That’s true. It’s equipment and setup that is winning now.
And Knaus setting up those cars to cheat. But yeah.
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the fist Pocono race last weekend had a sub 1.0 rating. I don't think I've ever seen ratings that low.
Well there's not much to watch when you can predict the results a week before the race.
This post was edited on 7/6/21 at 7:14 am
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:08 am to tzimme4
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And Knaus setting up those cars to cheat.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 12:36 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Wasn't sure if it was new thread worthy or not, so posting it here, but Atlanta is getting steeper and narrower after this weekend.
They are repaving the track and making the banking 28 degrees (up from 24), with the transition apron going from 4 to 18.
Also they are narrowing it all around - going from a uniform 55 feet all the way around, the front stretch narrows to 52, backstretch 42, and the turns 40.
They are repaving the track and making the banking 28 degrees (up from 24), with the transition apron going from 4 to 18.
Also they are narrowing it all around - going from a uniform 55 feet all the way around, the front stretch narrows to 52, backstretch 42, and the turns 40.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:19 pm to PJinAtl
Damn!
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