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Posted on 1/31/20 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 1:12 pm to
Boston is apparently weighing two different frameworks from the dodgers right now
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 1:17 pm to
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Disagree, doesn't sound as like any top 5 prospects going back


If this is true then Boston is retarded. You will never get fair value in a trade for a guy like Betts, but Boston can not get completely hosed here.....if they do then it likely be one of worst transactions we’ll see this decade.
Posted by JetsetNuggs
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 1:31 pm to
If I'm a Red Sox fan, I'm pissed if Gavin Lux isn't in the deal.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 1:33 pm to
well, if you were, id say prepare to be pissed
This post was edited on 1/31/20 at 1:34 pm
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 1:41 pm to
Verdugo was a top 5 prospect for them last year and has like a year of service time. He is pretty valuable even if he doesn’t technically qualify as a “prospect”
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 1:42 pm to
gonsolin is also top 5 and the only reason he isnt top 3 is because of age
This post was edited on 1/31/20 at 1:43 pm
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 3:57 pm to
Well I'm away of that, but from what I've seen rumored Gonslin is the best prospect heading back for them. Verdugo is a nice young player and a steal but again as you said not a prospect and also doesn't hurt the Dodgers considering their depth.
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 4:15 pm to
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gonsolin is also top 5 and the only reason he isnt top 3 is because of age
I think Gonsolin will settle in as a solid #3 starter. Could also be an 8th inning RP. One of my favorite Dodgers prospects.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 5:56 pm to
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Verdugo is a nice young player and a steal


He is not a steal. He is a former top prospect who performed well in his first season in the major leagues with a ton of value and is being treated as such if this trade happens.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 7:06 pm to
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gonsolin is also top 5 and the only reason he isnt top 3 is because of age



Top 5 what?
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 7:13 pm to
He was 4 for the Dodgers on Baseball America 6 on BP MLB Pipeline and the last Fangraphs list

I dunno what people are expecting in this era for one year of a guy, even a player as good as Betts. It’s a nice deal for Boston especially if they’re dumping some money
This post was edited on 1/31/20 at 7:14 pm
Posted by devils1854
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 7:36 pm to
A trade something like this would probably be good for both sides

Betts and Price

for

Verdugo, Gonsolin, Pollock, and Dennis Santana/DJ Peters
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 8:34 pm to
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Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 10:07 pm to
I like Verdugo and gonsolin. I’m just saying, TG is about to turn 26, Betts himself is 27

Verdugo reminds me a lot of Benintendi
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 10:08 pm to
Great thread, first time going to Fenway boys, any tips? Sitting in the loge box down the 3rd base line
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 10:09 pm to
Gonsolin is probably a mid rotation guy, not sexy but Boston needs cheap guys like that in the worst way right now. The Benintendi comp is a good one. I think it’s about what they should expect for a deal like this in today’s MLB
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 1:38 pm to
Yankees trade Andujar, Hicks, Florial, and Abreu for Arenado

If the Dodgers grab Betts
This post was edited on 2/1/20 at 1:39 pm
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 3:58 pm to
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Twins have already signed Rich Hill and Homer Bailey this offseason, and now add another pitcher when Jhoulys expect it.
Posted by Gator Mike
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Posted on 2/2/20 at 9:49 am to
I mean, the Red Sox pretty much have to get a better return for Betts than Arizona got for Goldschmidt, right? And I think you could certainly make a case that Verdugo and Gonsolin are roughly comparable to Carson Kelly and Luke Weaver.

At that point, I think the question becomes how much more do the Dodgers have to cough up to compensate for the fact that Betts is better than Goldschmidt?
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/2/20 at 10:08 am to
Supposedly they’d be taking on Price and sending back Pollock. I think Verdugo is better than Kelly as well
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