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re: 2020 Daytona 500 - UPDATE: Ryan Newman RELEASED from hospital
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:59 am to Zephyrius
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:59 am to Zephyrius
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There were 8-12 people who knew Newman was conscious when thet put him in the ambulance. They could have said something but had everyone thinking he was killed.
That is niether their job nor their call to make.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:00 am to SoDakHawk
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They need to figure out a way to allow these cars to break away from the pack and run alone without getting speeds too crazy high. Need to get the field strung out and get away from pack racing.
No one wants to watch that.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:01 am to Zephyrius
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There were 8-12 people who knew Newman was conscious when thet put him in the ambulance. They could have said something but had everyone thinking he was killed.
Does consciousness always mean survival? Maybe NASCAR wanted to get a full picture of the situation before saying something.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:13 am to redneck
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Doing away with races like the Daytona 500 and Talladega would completely end my interest in NASCAR.
Yep, I watch the plate races and the road races now. All the other races are like watching paint dry.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:14 am to SG_Geaux
I don’t think there’s a way to let them break away and reduce speeds.
If you want them to somewhat break away, wouldn’t they basically have to let them run 225-230 and turn it into a handling track?
But even then, would it have made a difference in a GWC like last night?
If you want them to somewhat break away, wouldn’t they basically have to let them run 225-230 and turn it into a handling track?
But even then, would it have made a difference in a GWC like last night?
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:17 am to shawnlsu
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Yep, I watch the plate races and the road races now. All the other races are like watching paint dry.
The first 180 laps of that race yesterday was like watching paint dry, aside from the final two laps of the segments.
The last twenty laps had two red flags and lasted almost 90 minutes.
Take away the Newman situation and combine it with Hamlin winning (again) and this was a very forgettable Daytona 500 and Speedweeks as a whole.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:21 am to AHM21
Go watch Pheonix or Chicago and get back to me with what paint drying looks like.
Point is, NASCAR can't and won't change the way Daytona and Talledega are raced because it brings in the $$$ that carries them all year. Think LSU football as Daytona and women's sports as all the non restrictor plate races.
Point is, NASCAR can't and won't change the way Daytona and Talledega are raced because it brings in the $$$ that carries them all year. Think LSU football as Daytona and women's sports as all the non restrictor plate races.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:26 am to shawnlsu
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Go watch Pheonix or Chicago and get back to me with what paint drying looks like.
Actual racing is better than guys being content to follow the leader in order to make a move with 20 laps to go.
When that happens, the last twenty laps takes 90 minutes and ends with a two lap shootout to decide a 500 mile race. I guess you could take the "it's a marathon and not a sprint" approach but that doesn't make it any less boring when compared to what Daytona/Dega was 20 years ago.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 9:28 am
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:36 am to AHM21
I'm surprised they have not released any additional information on his injuries.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:40 am to SG_Geaux
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They need to figure out a way to allow these cars to break away from the pack and run alone without getting speeds too crazy high. Need to get the field strung out and get away from pack racing.
Prior to restrictor plates. It wasn't unusual to only have 3-4 cars on the lead lap at the end of a Talladega race. Most of the race was 4-8 small packs of cars spread out around the track except for a few laps after a caution.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:42 am to Roll Tide Ravens
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Does consciousness always mean survival?
In 1975 in Austria Mark Donohue had a tire fail and crash through the catch fencing in his March F1 car. He seemed fine except for a headache that worsened overnight. He went to the hospital the next day where he lapsed into a coma from a cerebral hemorrhage and died.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:46 am to RD Dawg
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How are they gonna do that on 2 lap restarts/OT?
If the cars are allowed to get strung out you wouldn't have as many cautions at the end of a race that bunch up the cars.
Before that final lap crash I was commenting to my wife how miserable this ending was. She got home from work with 20 laps left so I was giving her a recap. It took over an hour to run the final 16 laps, mostly under caution. It was a mess of wrecks that ground the flow and entertainment to a grinding stop.
Yeah, that last OT run was incredible but the one hour leading up to it was grueling. Lucky for NASCAR it was Monday and they had undivided attention because if that was Sunday the TV's would have been clicking over to the XFL, NHL, and college basketball in droves.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:47 am to OSoBad
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I'm surprised they have not released any additional information on his injuries.
I think this is because they are very bad, and the doctors want to make sure they know the extent, and the family is aware, before anything is released.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:53 am to Fun Bunch
I recommend following Jeff Gluck and Bob Pockrass on Twitter. Whenever there is legitimate news or update on Newman’s condition, they’ll have it.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:11 am to SoDakHawk
quote:NASCAR needs hero and villains. We have none of those.. It is just bland.
Lucky for NASCAR it was Monday and they had undivided attention because if that was Sunday the TV's would have been clicking over to the XFL, NHL, and college basketball in droves.
If you watch it, it can be fun, strategy, pits...etc. But until you get drawn in it is just not entertaining.
The have to have something to draw people in, and it has to be drivers that attract followings. Tragically, one of the only ones with a personality got hurt yesterday.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:15 am to tigerfoot
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NASCAR needs hero and villains.
I, for one, wouldn't mind it if Brad Keselowski and Joey Logano wrecked on turn one of ever single race they were in.
Kyle Busch would be the closest we have to a villain, would he not? Although I like him.
I wouldn't bother me a bit if either the Joe Gibbs guys or Kevin Harvick won every race from here on out.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:21 am to SSpaniel
That is how crazy it is, I had no idea that Busch had 56 wins ,
I was drawn in around the time the Saints were sucking and Gordon and Dale Sr were battling. But as Gordon lost his competitiveness I just drifted away and have never been drawn back in.
I was drawn in around the time the Saints were sucking and Gordon and Dale Sr were battling. But as Gordon lost his competitiveness I just drifted away and have never been drawn back in.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:51 am to tigerfoot
How fast was the car going that t-boned Newman's driver side door when he was flying upside down?
That is such a testament to safety gear now that a human being survived that. Insane.
That is such a testament to safety gear now that a human being survived that. Insane.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:53 am to tigerfoot
I think we need some Indians, middle easterners and Russians. Like wrestling, they could scowl at the red necks as they are going to their cars.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:54 am to Pfft
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I think we need some Indians, middle easterners and Russians. Like wrestling, they could scowl at the red necks as they are going to their cars.
You mean we need Jean Girard?
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