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Posted on 10/6/19 at 4:55 pm to choupiquesushi
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wrong theory.... because they still have plenty schools per student in those areas....
Dutchtown and St. Amant have large school populations. This allows them to "compensate" to a degree for any players lost to select schools. It is those sheer numbers which allows them to be competitive with the selects on occasion. Ditto the St. Tammany schools.
You can be at a good school, with community support, with a large student population, WITH quality coaching...and still come up short. What is the saying...it's the Jimmy's and Joes, not necessarily the X's and O's. I believe the old ball coach knew his stuff.
It's just my .02.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 10/6/19 at 5:01 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:it's called carpooling or using those little short buses a la Curtis... Or a lot of parents bite the bullet and bring their kids that far every day if they have to
would imagine many parents are not going to feel comfortable with their teen commuting that far in city traffic. This would be the equivalent of a Slidell to St. Paul, Hahnville to Jesuit type commute.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 5:04 pm to jimmy the leg
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At any rate, since you seem to be more knowledgeable about CHS, how many players do they have from Zachary. I can't imagine it being more than 1 or 2, max. I have been wrong before. If so, enlighten me amigo.
Used to be a few back in the 1990s but a lot went to Redemptorist, had a good bit about 7 years ago, but those numbers fell after Brew got there.
Probably 6-7 FB kids, probably about 20 in the school.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 10/6/19 at 5:06 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:this is the story of the Northshore district... No one will ever say they're not ran right...
You can be at a good school, with community support, with a large student population, WITH quality coaching...and still come up short.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 5:11 pm to chalmetteowl
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this is the story of the Northshore district... No one will ever say they're not ran right...
And where are the elite athletes from the Northshore going to HS?
Posted on 10/6/19 at 5:12 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:wasn't Fournette living in Slidell? Didn't they raise a stink about BM being at their SYFA camp?
And where are the elite athletes from the Northshore going to HS?
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 10/6/19 at 5:20 pm to chalmetteowl
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wasn't Fpurnette living in Slidell?
No, he grew up in the 7th ward.
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Didn't they raise a stink about BM being at their SYFA camp?
Yes, and it was pretty much nonsense. The Youth coaches asked BM’s coach to run a clinic - which he did - and all of the NS coaches were there working it as well. They had Clapp come in and talk to the kids about his football experience and the LHSAA hit BM with a minor fine for “undue influence” because Clapp talked about being at BM.
I know people don’t believe this, but the LHSAA has draconian rules on private schools. They basically cannot do anything to promote their programs.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 5:45 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:plenty of articles said he was living in Slidell by the time he went to St. Aug
, he grew up in the 7th ward.
quote:they're not allowed to promote their programs outside of their attendance zone, which for BM, does not include Slidell.
They basically cannot do anything to promote their programs.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 6:10 pm to chalmetteowl
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plenty of articles said he was living in Slidell by the time he went to St. Aug
I know he lived in Houston for at least one year after Katrina. He would have been a 7th grader in 2007 at Aug, so maybe he went straight from Houston to Aug and the parents moved back to Slidell. I know he was talked about as a youth player in the 7th ward when he was just a little kid.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 6:39 pm to chalmetteowl
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this is the story of the Northshore district... No one will ever say they're not ran right...
IIRC, only Mandeville currently has a student population close to Dutchtown, St. Amant etc.
I believe Covngton and Northshore recently played Dutchtown. Both lost. Dutchtown has a quality staff (as do CHS and NHS). So what was the major difference? My take...Nothshore's loss was not only based on schoole enrollment, but demographics. As for Covington, there are roughly 500-600 fewer students give or take there than at Dutchtown. Even if only 1 out of every 200 give or take is a good athlete, that is three potential starters. In short, it isn't a huge difference, but it helps. Honestly, Dutchtown probably wins both regardless if school size is identical, but you never know. At any rate, it is what it is. However, leaving out factors like school size, demographics, and the number of the select schools in the area doesn't seem like a wise way to form an opinion about what factors make a program successful.
Just my .02.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 6:49 pm to Antonio Moss
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And where are the elite athletes from the Northshore going to HS?
They go to either St. Paul or the public school that is aligned with their residence. Hannan, Pope, and Northlake usually are just well coached, hard working kids. In short, St. Tammany has traditional public schools. As such, you never know where the elite talent will be. This year, the elite talent is dispersed pretty evenly. That is why the district is pretty evenly matched across the board, yet pretty average overall.
As for D1 talent...each school pretty much has "a guy", maybe two. Like I said...it's about the Jimmy's and Joes.
A larger enrollment equals more Jimmy's and Joes. That still is only one factor though.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 8:56 pm to Antonio Moss
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Yes, and it was pretty much nonsense.
While I agree, I can also see this from the side of the local coaches as well. This wasn't long after the two twins went to St. Paul. I'm not sure of their story but I don't believe they were "recruited." However, it may not have sat well with the local coaches.
In short, they may have over-reacted based on that. Additionally, there were a couple of quality players there and coaches can be territorial. BM may have been (and seemed to be, at least to me) pretty innocent in this.
I know people don’t believe this, but the LHSAA has draconian rules on private schools.
This is true.
They basically cannot do anything to promote their programs.
This is not true in my experience.
The LHSAA is a toothless organization. One call to an attorney and whatever the accusations are will either be minimized greatly, or disappear altogether.
To be fair the vast majority of select schools seem to attempt to closely follow those draconian rules (which is probabaly a daunting task). However, I would imagine the few that don't tend to be very successful. Just my .02
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:21 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:ask shaw and southern lab about that......
This is not true in my experience.
The LHSAA is a toothless organization. One call to an attorney and whatever the accusations are will either be minimized greatly, or disappear altogether.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:09 am to Antonio Moss
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You think the really good public schools around Dallas and Houston are losing kids to expensive private schools?
Most big public schools in Texas are better than damn near every private in La.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:15 am to choupiquesushi
There’s a slight difference between so called “recruiting” violations and the financial frickery that went on at Southern Lab.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:25 am to choupiquesushi
Email me: mossantonio138@gmail.com
Posted on 10/8/19 at 8:59 pm to double d
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Most big public schools in Texas are better than damn near every private in La.
If you combined West Monroe, Neville, Ouachita, Wossman, Carroll, Sterlington, and Richwood enrollments, Allen would still have more kids. That is all of West Monroe/Monroe public schools combined and it still doesn't make up the enrollment of one "Big public school in Texas". OF COURSE they're better. Look at the pool they're pulling from to field a team.
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