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re: 2018 Tour de France thread: Thomas wins!
Posted on 6/25/18 at 2:07 pm to nvcowboyfan
Posted on 6/25/18 at 2:07 pm to nvcowboyfan
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BMC
I suppose it is known at this point that Teejay just doesn't have that extra gear that it takes to stay with the top guys in the world when he needs to, so what is his best role going forward? Can he and Porte work together and make a run at it?
btw, his TT at tour of california was awesome.
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 2:34 pm to gmrkr5
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Distinctive aspects of the race
ALMOST 100 % FRENCH
Except for a short visit of around 15 kilometres in Spain during stage 16 between Carcassonne and Bagnères-de-Luchon, the 105th Tour de France will never go out of the borders of France. 36“départements” will be travelled through and the Basque country that hadn’t been visited since 2006 will once again be on the map of the Tour.
THE COBBLES RETURN
During the 9th stage, Arras > Roubaix, there will be 21.7 kilometres of cobbled roads. The riders will take on a total of 15 sectors with lengths varying from 500m to 2.7 kilometres.
TIME-TRIALS: TTT AND ITT
Like it was the case last summer in Marseille, the winner of the 105th edition should be crowned after the 20th and penultimate stage, a time-trial between Saint-Pée-sur-Nivelle and Espelette on a distance of 31 kilometres. After a three-year absence, a team time-trial of 35 kilometres will also be on the menu during stage 3 in Cholet.
176 AT THE START
Based on a decision taken by the Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI), each one of the 22 teams taking part in the Tour will, in 2018, be formed of 8 riders. There will therefore be a total of 176 riders present at the Grand Départ in Vendée Pays de la Loire.
3, 2, 1 BONUS …
It’ll be an innovation: from the Grand Départ until and including the 9th stage, 3, 2 and 1 bonus seconds will be awarded to the first three who reach a specific kilometre of the course determined in advance. It will have no incidence however on the points classification.
… AND 10, 6, 4 EXTRA BONUS
More conventional: 10, 6 and 4 bonus seconds will be taken off the overall times of the first three of each normal stage of the Tour (except for time-trials).
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:14 pm to jimmy the leg
Picture of the washout and according to the authorities, they think it will be fixed by the time the tour gets there in late July. It is a major road in that region.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:22 pm to pennypacker3
This guy says "Eff it, lets ride it".
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:28 pm to Zappas Stache
Not bad...but he’s got nothing on Sagan. Haha
Oops...that is the man himself.
Oops...that is the man himself.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:39 pm to pennypacker3
Don't understand the logic behind the change to team size.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:25 pm to starsandstripes
Smaller team size is supposed to weaken the super strong teams (come sky cough) and make the race more manageable
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:27 pm to nvcowboyfan
Seems like if you weaken the stronger teams you'll create a bit of chaos in the peloton and increase the overall danger.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 7:59 am to starsandstripes
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Seems like if you weaken the stronger teams you'll create a bit of chaos in the peloton and increase the overall danger.
awesome so let's just watch Sky win every year because they have the most resources
chaos in the peloton will make for a much better race
This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 8:00 am
Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:08 am to gmrkr5
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awesome so let's just watch Sky win every year because they have the most resources
What's wrong with this? They have put together a better team. They should be punished?
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chaos in the peloton will make for a much better race
It will make for more crashes and subject the UCI to criticism since it continually harps on safety. More crashes and inevitable loss of jersey contenders to injury will make the race worse. It's one thing when you have the cobbles or similar challenges, but when you put in a rule to produce such an effect, to me that is short sighted. But we'll see how it turns out....maybe it will make the race better.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 12:24 pm to starsandstripes
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What's wrong with this? They have put together a better team. They should be punished?
you like watching golden state and bama win every year too?
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It will make for more crashes and subject the UCI to criticism since it continually harps on safety. More crashes and inevitable loss of jersey contenders to injury will make the race worse. It's one thing when you have the cobbles or similar challenges, but when you put in a rule to produce such an effect, to me that is short sighted. But we'll see how it turns out....maybe it will make the race better.
you get all that from them reducing the size of the teams? um ok...
Posted on 6/26/18 at 1:22 pm to starsandstripes
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It will make for more crashes and subject the UCI to criticism since it continually harps on safety.
Sky isn't going to be riding for a sprinter. Generally, the smaller teams have the top sprinters and control the peloton at the end of flat stages. They will probably take 1 less climber or low level GC contender rather than sacrifice a lead-out guy. Crashes will happen regardless. On the flip side, the reduction isn't going to hurt Sky.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 5:47 pm to Zappas Stache
Sky is the strongest team, but when you allegedly ride electric scooters in a bike race, that helps more than team size. UCI is VERY suspect as an organization from a corruption standpoint imo. Between Lance and his shenanigans up to UCI refusing to X-ray Sky bikes after a team time trial, they are sketchy. The sad thing is that in spite of all of this stuff, I will be tuned in when it starts. At this point though, at least in my mind, cycling is only a step above professional wrestling.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 7:03 pm to jimmy the leg
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Sky is the strongest team, but when you allegedly ride electric scooters in a bike race, that helps more than team size. UCI is VERY suspect as an organization from a corruption standpoint imo. Between Lance and his shenanigans up to UCI refusing to X-ray Sky bikes after a team time trial, they are sketchy.
are you alluding to that 60 minutes segment on electric motors in bicycles? for what it's worth, i though that was the most uninformed, aww shucks, clueless reporting on cycling that i've seen in the mainstream media. the implication was that because sky's time trial bikes were heavier than the bikes they used in road stages, a motor might be present. the simple fact that disc wheels and tt bikes - which are designed to prioritize aerodynamics at the expense of weight savings - seemed to be lost on bill whitaker. that segment was a joke. and IF world tour teams did use motors in the past, they would have to be insane to continue the practice after the femke van den driessche bust.
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The sad thing is that in spite of all of this stuff, I will be tuned in when it starts. At this point though, at least in my mind, cycling is only a step above professional wrestling.
i totally get this sentiment, but i think we need to make a distinction between the widespread use of blood bags and EPO versus the use of finish bottles with tramadol in them and the exploitation of TUEs. i don't think pro cycling is where it needs to be in terms of cleanliness. but it's in a better place than it was before.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:38 pm to Bunsbert Montcroff
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the implication was that because sky's time trial bikes were heavier than the bikes they used in road stages, a motor might be present.
Same weight difference is damn suspicious to me. This was known to UCI at the time. The opportunity was there to X-ray the bikes and yet it wasn't done. Shoddy journalism that could be deemed a hit piece notwithstanding, that is either a huge miss by UCI, or corruption imho. My take, if it's EFTours (a new team) in that spot, they are investigated and x-rays are done. Like I said, I will be watching, but imho, the sport is just as dirty as ever (ie Froome and his neverending appeal).
Posted on 6/27/18 at 6:17 am to jimmy the leg
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corruption imho
frick Sky and the UCI
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:03 pm to pennypacker3
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Here's another interesting bit about stage 17. Not sure what to expect from this grid start. Maybe the riders will establish their own kilometre zero or is it a drag race from the get-go?
i think this has the potential to be a nothing-burger, or a complete shite show. so color me interested.
i can envision one sneaky tactic if the leader has teammates high in the gc - the leader races off from the start, and his teammates "accidentally" fall or clip out or just start slowly to impede everyone behind them, blocking the competitors. guess they'll have to be ready for anything?
Posted on 6/28/18 at 7:40 pm to Bunsbert Montcroff
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and IF world tour teams did use motors in the past, they would have to be insane to continue the practice after the femke van den driessche bust.
If teams doped, they would be insane to keep doping after the big Festina bust and other scandals,..... yet they kept (keep?) doping their asses off year after year and bust after bust.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:16 am to Twenty 49
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