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re: 2014 Spurs v 1996 Bulls

Posted on 7/3/14 at 2:55 am to
Posted by tigers9898
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 2:55 am to
The bulls for the same reason we compare every team to them, they were the best. Plus who would guard Jordan AND Pippen no one.
Posted by SnoopALoop
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 7:04 am to
'96 Bulls > '14 Spurs

Why? Jordan.

But really, they had a unique offense ran by one of the all time greats. Both are great teams, but the Bulls for me had a real nice bench that consisted of multiple role players who could come in and do damage. They had 3pt. specialists, rebounders, all-defensive players.

No team was funner to watch than the Bulls because you knew they were going to pull off the W (and the numbers don't lie). They've never lost a finals series.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:00 am to
We're talking about the same Spurs team that got taken to 7 games by the 8 seed in round 1 right.

I'll "go out on a limb" and say the 96 Bulls win this one.

Because GOAT.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:04 am to
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They've never lost a finals series


What does this have to do with the thread?

The better overall team is the Bulls, but if San Antonio plays the way they did in the Finals this year, no team in history is beating them. Plain and simple.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:15 am to
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but if San Antonio plays the way they did in the Finals this year, no team in history is beating them. Plain and simple.

Pretty bold statement. I would say if the Spurs had played a better team in the finals, maybe they wouldn't have looked so dominant.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:22 am to
The way they shot was incredible. Most of those shots were well defended, yet they were all finding the bottom of the net.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:33 am to
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I would say if the Spurs had played a better team in the finals, maybe they wouldn't have looked so dominant.

the spurs' passing, games 3-5, was mind-blowing and something we have never seen in an NBA finals game before
Posted by OneFifty
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:10 am to
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Spurs. The nba is better and more athletic today than back then




Racist
Posted by ZenFNmaster
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:10 am to
Bulls in 5. Think about it in terms of matchups.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:26 am to
quote:

96 Bulls > '14 Spurs

Why? Jordan.


bullshite reason.

quote:

really, they had a unique offense ran by one of the all time greats. Both are great teams, but the Bulls for me had a real nice bench that consisted of multiple role players who could come in and do damage. They had 3pt. specialists, rebounders, all-defensive players.


The Spurs are literally the gold standard for bench effectiveness and production.

quote:

No team was funner to watch than the Bulls


Search for the Spurs' "beautiful game" vids on YouTube and get back to me.

quote:

They've never lost a finals series.



Irrelevant.

But since you went there, it's not like SA made a habit of losing in the Finals. Of the six they've played in, their only blemish was one of the most improbable losses of all time.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:33 am to
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who would guard Jordan AND Pippen no one.



Spurs play team defense, not necessarily 1v1 matchups.

Jordan would get his. Pippin would get his, and you'd look up midway through the 4th quarter and it'd be a 4 point game with SA bringing the fresher legs due to superior depth.

A series between the two goes 6 or 7 every time.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:05 am to
TBird throwing down.

I agree. It's funny how my post earlier in the thread was on par with how it turned out. 'Bulls would win because of Jordan' blah blah.

If we are basing it off of the best player on the floor, then SA had no business beating the Thunder (Durant/Westbrook) or the Heat with James.

The logic on this board is hilarious at times.

BTW- Bulls didn't have deciding games in early rounds because they played awesome teams like the Nets and Bullets...
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:16 am to
Yeah because the 95-96 Seattle Supersonics and the boards own beloved Shaquille O'Neal's Orlando Magic were all cakewalks that season


96-96 Bulls would beat that arse
Posted by SnoopALoop
Nashville
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:26 am to
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BTW- Bulls didn't have deciding games in early rounds because they played awesome teams like the Heat, Knicks, and Magic...



Yeah, those are definitely pushovers! Good ol' Miami Heat before "Heat fans" knew about them.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:30 am to
Comparing teams across eras is always a borderline ridiculous exercise.

But it's fair to say that neither team would finish off the other in less than 6 games.

I will say this: the 14 Spurs are deeper and shot better in the Finals than any squad the Bulls ever saw.

As great as Chicago was, they never destroyed an opponent in the Finals the way SA just did. No one has since before their time.

And despite all that, the Bulls may still have won. Who's to say?

But if you just say bulls win because of Jordan/Pippen, that won't work. SA has left a trail of world class duos and trios in their wake over the past 15 years. Jordan was transcendent but not superhuman. Pop would definitely have made him and the Bulls earn every inch, just like SA has done to other more talented opponents over the years.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:31 am to
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You make great points, but did the Bulls ever play a team as good as the Mavs in round one?

Did the Bulls ever rest starters en masse?

Did the Bulls ever play in a conference as stacked as the West in 2014?


I wouldn't say that Heat team in 96 was as good as the Mavs, but they did have Mourning and Hardaway so it's not like they had a group of no-name players. The Bulls team dominated that series. Second round they played a pretty solid Knicks team with Ewing, Mason, Starks, Oakley, Derek Harper, and Hubert Davis. Third round they played that Orlando team that made the finals the year before and swept them. That team consisted of Shaq and a healthy Penny Hardaway (both were easily top 10 players in the league), Dennis Scott, Nick Anderson, and former Bull Horace Grant. I know that team got swept by the Rockets in the finals the year before, but Shaq and Penny were another year older. In the finals they played a 64 win Supersonic team that included Gary Payton, Shawn Kemp, Hersey Hawkins, Detlef Schrempf, and Sam Perkins. That's a great team so it isn't like the Bulls never played anybody

I don't think the Bulls ever rested starters. I think Rodman and Longley both missed 20ish games, but they definitely didn't rest their starters or players in general nearly to the extent Pop did with the Spurs.

Bulls definitely didn't play in a conference as stacked as the West in 2014, but I do feel like the Spurs were lucky to escape without playing the Rockets in the playoffs because they were a match up nightmare for this Spurs team.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:36 am to
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I do feel like the Spurs were lucky to escape without playing the Rockets in the playoffs because they were a match up nightmare for this Spurs team.


I don't buy this. Yeah the Rockets swept us 4-0 during the season, but so did OKC. Also, the trailblazers were a nightmare matchup for SA until they ran into the playoff Spurs. Many teams talk about flipping a switch, but few do it better from regular season to postseason as well as SA.

Houston with all their defensive liabilities would have been dead in the water against SA's ball movement IMO.

ETA: I agree with your other points though. The East the Bulls went through was tougher than the East the Heat have gone through.

Both iterations of the East are/were inferior to the current West, though, IMO.
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 10:39 am
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25532 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:41 pm to
2014 Mavericks > 1996 Heat
1996 Knicks > 2014 Blazers
2014 Thunder > 1996 Magic
2014 Heat > 1996 Sonics

Sonics and Heat is close...but it's funny how the Heat were being compared to the great dynasties and then had their arse kicked, and all of a sudden they suck. Reminds me of '05 USC before Texas beat them in the Rose Bowl.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:44 pm to
You can't compare generations...and no, youtube clips isn't the same as living through the games.

So enough of this - I watched an old clip bullshite.

You can only go by what they did to their peers.

'86 Celtics - Bird, Kevin McHale and Robert Parish were all in their primes, and they were all named to the NBAs 50 Greatest Players list. They trio combined for 63.2 points, 27.4 rebounds and 4.0 blocks per game on 53.2 percent shooting.

And, they had the Sixth Man of the Year in Bill Walton, who averaged 14.1 points, 12.7 rebounds and 2.5 blocks per 36 minutes on 56.2 percent shooting.

You talk about the Spurs bench and depth and chemisty?

The Celtics had four guys average over 15 points per game.

McHale averaged 21.3 ppg and 8.1 rpg, Parish had 16.1 ppg and a 9.1 ppg, and Johnson (15.6) and Ainge (10.1) also scored in double figures. Wedman contributed 8.0 ppg off the bench, and Walton played in a career-high 80 games and averaged 7.6 ppg and 6.8 rpg. Boston led the league in rebounding with 46.4 rpg, nearly five per game more than its opponents.

And the Celtics were virtually unbeatable at home, losing only a game in December to Portland en route to a league-record 40-1 home mark (they would also win all 10 home playoff games).

Talk about passing?

Uh...Larry Bird, Larry Bird, Larry Bird...oh, and McHale and DJ and Walton.

Record: 67-15 (.817)

Playoffs:

1. 3-0
2. 4-1
3. 4-0

Finals: 4-2

So, yeah...I'm not taking a team that struggled to get out of the 1st round...and only shined against an over-rated South Beach team - that gets way too much love only because of LeBron.
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 12:47 pm
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
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19900 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:49 pm to
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