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re: 14 to 16 team playoff is coming

Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by StansberryRules
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:41 pm to
Every single change made to college football over the past 25 years has made it worse.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:42 pm to
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top 4 SEC + ACC champ + Notre Dame would be far better than your shitbag proposal -

At least then the SEC wouldn’t have to deal with ESPN rigging it against them so the Big Ten could win!
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:45 pm to
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I was free to not run track/xc. I chose to. That was my job in exchange for a reduced cost education. And I also was free to work another job which I did. Two as a matter of fact.

Ah, so you were a student athlete in a non revenue sport, you made nobody any money, and therefore you feel qualified to offer the opinion that revenue generating athletes generating tens of millions of dollars should not get paid because they’re the same as you?
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:47 pm to
For somebody with a username “The third leg” you have an insane amount of little dick syndrome in this thread
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:48 pm to
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Student athletes are not labor. They are students. They are not professionals and should not be paid like professionals. If they want to be paid, they should declare for the draft.

No, in revenue generating sports like football, where quite literally tens of millions of dollars are generated, it is indeed labor. These players are putting in more hours for their sport than most employees of the Universities. They then market these players to sell shite to fans. Its labor. It isn’t some kid playing for his family, it is an industrial economy in which they were exploited for economic gain.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:49 pm to
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For somebody with a username “The third leg” you have an insane amount of little dick syndrome in this thread

I’m responding to a guy who is claiming a Power conference football player shouldn’t be paid because he got a scholarship to run cross country and I have little dick energy?
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:58 pm to
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Wow, the SEC needs more guaranteed spots to increase their level of competition to playing full house schedules like the other power league does instead of scheduling FCS schools in November.
i get that you're trolling the SEC,

But the fact remains that there are teams outside the power conferences. Maybe there should be another tier, but as of now there isn't.
Are you saying they should just play themselves? What, then, about the argument that going 12-0 in a small conference is worthless because they didn't play anyone?
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:13 pm to
The Big ten and SEC shouldn’t be playing FCS teams at all. Full stop. The scholarship delta is huge and very few of those kids can compete at that level.

In a 12 game schedule, play 9 league games, 1 P5 OOC, and 2 G5s.

There is no scheduling standardization in CFB. It is dumb. In some years, an SEC school might play 3G5, 1FCS, 8 SEC while another in the Big Ten plays 9BT, 1P5 and 2 G5. Makes it tough to compare these teams.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:32 pm to
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The Big ten and SEC shouldn’t be playing FCS teams at all.
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There is no scheduling standardization in CFB. It is dumb

I get you with that. But part of the problem is, you want to share the money with local, smaller schools...
in the South some of those schools are FCS. You have the SWAC/HBCU schools; Southern is in BR just like LSU. Insane mismatch, but in a way it makes more sense for LSU to provide sacrificial money to Southern than it does a MAC school. Both are auto-wins, one's in your state.

As for quality of competition- some of the FCS teams, the Dakota teams for example, are more challenging than most G5 on the field. Big 12 teams have played them, K State lost not that long ago.

It shouldn't be a formula, there should be some educated "eye test" (for lack of a better term) involved with assessing schedules. Playing South Dakota (FCS) should count for more than playing ULM or Akron (G5), and playing Boise (G5) should count for more than playing Miss State or Purdue (P4).

Formulas can have loopholes. I said years ago when La Tech was good, they could schedule bottom dwellers from the ACC, SEC, Big 10, Big 12 and Pac 12, and go 11-1. And they'd still get their teeth kicked in by the real powers, but they'd fit the criteria.
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 4:05 pm to
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Every single change made to college football over the past 25 years has made it worse.



disagree - 4 teams were better than 2. Six with an autobid for the highest undefeated G5 champ would have been best.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:18 pm to
Brian kelly will still find a way to miss out
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:09 pm to
Cause 12 worked out so well
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
684 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:44 pm to
You guys are just funny and sad. College football has been a corrupt fake sport for decades with teams paying players and being protected by the NCAA? Now that any school can buy players you guys want to say the sport is terrible and dead. I laugh at that and your teams taking a lot more losses because you can no longer sign and lock a player up for years upon years.

The sport is better than ever and for every fan of your fanbases who will leave and whine about losses you’ll be replaced by fans of other schools who now have hope to not only buy some high end players but can also get into a playoff system. The mighty SEC who built their brand by the bagman system is now on the outside as 2 Midwest teams made it to the Natty by winning playoff games and not just being given an invite. If the south wants to leave the sport it will simply move to the Midwest and out west like it use to be.
Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 10:47 pm to
Not sure how they expect fans to pay for 4 fricking playoff games. Dumb
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19064 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:38 am to
Bye weeks just can't be a thing in college football since the playoff rankings are subjective.

Makes no sense.

-16 teams
-8 home games on NYE/NYD (would be the best weekend in college football every year)
-Remaining 8 teams play the current Quarter/Semi/Final rounds that they have in place now with rotating locations

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19064 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:40 am to
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The 1 and 2 seed get byes


Shouldn't be a thing. Period.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19064 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:42 am to
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Not sure how they expect fans to pay for 4 fricking playoff games. Dumb



Well, if the first round of 4 games are at home, hopefully they can have an arrangement with season ticket holders and it not be as bad. Plus no travel helps.


Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3295 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 1:10 pm to
have to scrap conference title games then. Can't have some teams playing an extra game at the end of a long season.

ETA - Also lets the auto bid go to the team that had the best conference slate, not just one Saturday in december.
This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 1:23 pm to
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I’m responding to a guy who is claiming a Power conference football player shouldn’t be paid because he got a scholarship to run cross country and I have little dick energy?
I have zero issues with NIL on the surface. If you’re able to make money off of selling signatures or if Dr Pepper wants to pay someone to be in fansville ads or whatever they should have the ability to do so. My issue is having university involvement. Mark my words the universities paying out athletes directly is going to lead to the whole system being nuked. With the way the ncaa has been getting bent over in courts lately some female swimmer from bfe state is going to sue on the basis of title ix and win then we’ll see the dismantling of college sports as a whole when all but 15 or so schools can’t afford to keep their programs running.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 1:59 pm to
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No, in revenue generating sports like football, where quite literally tens of millions of dollars are generated, it is indeed labor.


why does the amount of revenue generated matter? A fotball player and a womens diver are both student athletes going to school and playing a sport. One can't be called labor if the other isn't.

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These players are putting in more hours for their sport than most employees of the Universities. They then market these players to sell shite to fans. Its labor. It isn’t some kid playing for his family, it is an industrial economy in which they were exploited for economic gain


All these "boo hoo woe to those poor children" are so astoundingly misguided. Prior to all this shite we have now, football players received:

-free tuition
-free housing
-free books
-free tutoring
-free clothes
-free meals
-free medical care
-a monetary stipend

not to mention a televised tryout seen by millions for a potential job at the next level. All of the items above are well...WELL...into the 6 figures over a 3 year span. The cost to a normal student, espeically with out of state tuition, would be well into the multiple hundreds of thousands. So forgive me for not feeling an ounce of pity for them.

But just like with almost everything else, money and greed have ruined it. In about a 5 year span we went from "hey that pixelated video game image is supposed to be me maybe I should get something for that" to "my services are open to anyone in the country paying me at least $2M up front, in addition to these other demands. I will be on a 1 year contract and will open up my services again next year to the highest bidder'.

Anyone that thinks ^^^^ that is the way CFB should be run is fricking stupid. The amount of money generated by the school could not possibly be more irrelevant.
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