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re: 11 greatest professional basketball players in recorded history according to me

Posted on 6/11/18 at 7:53 am to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 7:53 am to
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That's simply not true. Not even close. He made one of the worst teams a playoff team in his first season
That team was 30-52....Hence, like the poster said, not a winning season. The poster was correct in what he said
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:13 am to
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The poster was correct in what he said
No he absolutely was not.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:18 am to
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No he absolutely was not.
He was only wrong because he listed Phil Jackson

Michael Jordan did not have a winning season until he had both Horace and Scottie though

MJs first three seasons were losing seasons without them

MJ without Horace and Scottie

38-44

30-52

40-52

Horace and scottie join the bulls

50-32- First winning season
This post was edited on 6/11/18 at 10:22 am
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:18 am to
Prove I was incorrect then
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:22 am to
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Prove I was incorrect then
You were only incorrect because you listed Phil Jackson
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:23 am to
MJ was out most of his second season.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:24 am to
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MJ was out most of his second season.

Ok

His third season he was still 40-42

I dont know how else to say it. He didnt have a winning season until Horace and Pippen joined. That isnt a dig its just true
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:30 am to
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I dont know how else to say it. He didnt have a winning season until Horace and Pippen joined. That isnt a dig its just true

I mean it may be true, but what kind of impact do think Pippen had as a rookie? He averaged maybe 9 points a game. If you think that 9 points a game pushed MJ into above .500 ball, then maybe the roster wasn’t all that great before.

Wasn’t Pip’s rookie year the same year that MJ won nearly every postseason accolade in the book?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:31 am to
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If you think that 9 points a game pushed MJ into above .500 ball, then maybe the roster wasn’t all that great before.
Thats exactly what I am saying

When MJ got better teammates,his team got better

This isnt exactly rocket surgery
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 10:33 am to
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Never seen a player purposely frick with the other team like Bird did in his prime.


His highlights are so awesome for this reason

The NBA needs another guy like this.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 11:04 am to
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Thats exactly what I am saying When MJ got better teammates,his team got better This isnt exactly rocket surgery

No it’s not rocket surgery. What does that mean btw? I’m just saying Pip wasn’t a top 50 basketball player yet. If Pip and his rookie stats did propell MJ into a winning season, then any decent, serviceable help probably would’ve pushed MJ over .500 as well. It takes a top 50 player in Pippen to go for 3 peats. Don’t mistake me for someone that thinks MJ did anything by himself
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 11:15 am to
Who are the best ones from the prehistoric era?
Posted by sugar71
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/11/18 at 1:00 pm to
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That's simply not true. Not even close. He made one of the worst teams a playoff team in his first season
That team was 30-52....Hence, like the poster said, not a winning season. The poster was correct in what he said




Did he mention there were only 11 teams in the East and 8 made the playoffs? The Bulls went from 27 to 38 wins with MJ.

The Celtics went from 29 wins ( 32 the previous season) to 61 wins and an ECF bid with Rookie Larry Bird with essentially the same team.. That's impact.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17232 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 3:48 pm to
1. LeBron James (This may ruffle feathers, that is fine. Just my opinion and I dont blame anyone for disagreeing.)
2. Michael Jordan
3. Lew Alcindor
4. Erving Johnson
5. Wilt Chamberlain
6. Larry Bird
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Oscar Robertson
9. Tim Duncan
10. Hakeem Olajuwon
11. Bill Russell
Posted by GeauxHouston
Midland, Texas
Member since Nov 2013
5028 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 4:00 pm to
Switch Kobe and Bird and you got a list
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 4:29 pm to
When Dr. J retired in 1987, he was widely considered the greatest player ever. Just 30 years later, he gets left off the majority of top 10 lists. This is almost entirely due to a poorly maintained statistical record in his time in the ABA. But the modern NBA is built almost entirely in his image. He's the guy who brought the game above the rim and turned it into a showcase for beautiful athleticism.

As time passes, all that remains are the numbers on the page. He is going to slip out of the cultural memory of the game, surpassed by his acolytes, Bird, Magic, and especially Jordan (though Jordan named David Thompson as his favorite player).
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55375 posts
Posted on 6/11/18 at 5:42 pm to
Dr.I, Elgin , Bill Russell, Cousy, Big O
This post was edited on 6/11/18 at 6:21 pm
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