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Why do credit scores change with no changes in history?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:07 pm
Noticed my credit score dipped 22 points from the last time I checked it on November 21. Looked tonight and it had dropped for no reason. What gives?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:16 pm to shoelessjoe
Have you applied for credit or a loan?
Score can be impacted just by credit inquiries (number of over a period of time).
Did your credit limits get increased?
More credit capacity can impact scores
And many more that I am sure experts on this board can enlighten you. These are examples from my experience.
Score can be impacted just by credit inquiries (number of over a period of time).
Did your credit limits get increased?
More credit capacity can impact scores
And many more that I am sure experts on this board can enlighten you. These are examples from my experience.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:26 pm to Turf Taint
Did you charge up a credit card? Did you open any type of new account? A credit score can drop for a number of reasons.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:45 pm to Turf Taint
Haven’t applied for credit or a loan.
Have had no credit inquiries for some time.
Have a credit card that I use to put gas charges on and pay it before the deadline, religiously.
Credit limits increased at the beginning of the year but never affected my credit score.
Have had no credit inquiries for some time.
Have a credit card that I use to put gas charges on and pay it before the deadline, religiously.
Credit limits increased at the beginning of the year but never affected my credit score.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:47 pm to bubbz
No, didn’t charge up a credit card. Most I put a month on card is about 500 and that’s nowhere near the amount to affect it.
Did not open up a new account either. Everything has pretty much been the same with no changes until now.
Did not open up a new account either. Everything has pretty much been the same with no changes until now.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:54 pm to shoelessjoe
Most likely you are over or close to 30% of the credit limit at the time they report to the bureaus
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:58 pm to shoelessjoe
Credit Utilization. The % of credit you use vs your amount of credit.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:06 pm to Intelligent
Could be lack of balance showing. I've seen that. If you pay it off too quick, it's too low when the balances report, and it looks like you're not using it. It makes you scratch your head. Comes right back, though.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:48 pm to shoelessjoe
Because it is all a scam.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:03 am to shoelessjoe
Certain Percentages of balances on Credit Cards can bust you up even if you pay on time.
For instance cycle ends , you already paid your bill leave a balance over 50% used I’ve been knocked down a 10 or more points .
For instance cycle ends , you already paid your bill leave a balance over 50% used I’ve been knocked down a 10 or more points .
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:44 am to Turf Taint
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Did your credit limits get increased?
Ummm. No.
It is a factor like "not enough revolving balance available".
You see "too much available credit" as a top5 reason for your score when the score is at 840 and none of the other factors apply.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:49 am to shoelessjoe
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No, didn’t charge up a credit card. Most I put a month on card is about 500 and that’s nowhere near the amount to affect it.
Did not open up a new account either. Everything has pretty much been the same with no changes until now.
If there is no new activity to change the score, then it may be old activity falling off or providing a diminishing return.
If you have an account that has been inactive for 24 months, its impact on the score will decrease. If that was a good account, then it is helping you less.
The same can be said for dormant accounts over 10 years (they used to fall off the report completely). A paid off car loan. Or old mortgage that had been refinanced to $0 balance.
If your score is over 740, you probably aren't missing out on anything with the fluctuations (most creditors may use 720 as a threshold, but more exclusive ones could be 740)
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:42 am to shoelessjoe
My utilization stays under 10% and I still have 10-20 point jumps every month from utilization changes. That is the biggest factor. It's not just 30% overall, if I throw something on my store CC's with a lower limit and that single account hits 30% it will be a bigger drop than if I use my regular cash back cards that have normal limits on them and utilization is barely changed. It's normal, don't worry about it you can correct utilization in a month.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:04 am to shoelessjoe
One big driver is amount of credit card limit vs how much used. If you ever go over 30% use of credit card limit you are dinged.
I learned this by taking one of my credit card offers for a 0% interest loan for 18 months (small fee charged). I thought why not. But, it immediately dinged my credit.
I learned this by taking one of my credit card offers for a 0% interest loan for 18 months (small fee charged). I thought why not. But, it immediately dinged my credit.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:26 pm to shoelessjoe
I admit i don’t fully understand what kind of dark sorcery they use to calculate those things.
Anyone know for sure if/how much medical debt counts?
Anyone know for sure if/how much medical debt counts?
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:46 pm to Rick9Plus
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Anyone know for sure if/how much medical debt counts?
Is it structured as some sort of installment payment plan? Has it been sold to a debt recovery company?
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:59 pm to Newgene
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Could be lack of balance showing. I've seen that. If you pay it off too quick, it's too low when the balances report, and it looks like you're not using it. It makes you scratch your head. Comes right back, though
This makes sense because I paid my credit card bill off when I normally don’t do it. I usually take care of it on the 9th of each month and did it on the 20th of the previous month. I paid it twice in one month which would have been the outcome of what you are saying.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:18 pm to Rick9Plus
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Anyone know for sure if/how much medical debt counts?
Anything over $500 and behind counts. If you are paying and were never behind, even if it is $10 a month they shouldn't report it. If you pay it off even if you were behind it goes away unlike other debt. Anything under $500 paid or not starting in about 6 months won't matter either.
My only collections ever were medical debt and most dropped off with the rule changes this year but for some reason a small percentage of it under $500 is falling off mid 2023.
Medical debt is fricked up. I had collections on my credit from doctors that treated me in the hospital while I was still laid up in the hospital... yeah most people don't do a 5 month stay in the hospital in their thirties but it happens and to have you credit absolutely fricked because you were trying not to die in the hospital is fricked up.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:06 pm to shoelessjoe
This stuff can get quirky.
When we paid our mortgage off, our scores went down by over 100 points.
When we paid our mortgage off, our scores went down by over 100 points.
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