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re: Why did futures just spike?
Posted on 4/8/25 at 2:22 pm to Fat Bastard
Posted on 4/8/25 at 2:22 pm to Fat Bastard
When the dust settles and iPhones are $3000, half the people are unemployed, and our 401k has $38, we can finally go all in on $.20 voo
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 2:32 pm to fareplay
Posted on 4/8/25 at 2:40 pm to fareplay
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When the dust settles and iPhones are $3000, half the people are unemployed, and our 401k has $38, we can finally go all in on $.20 voo
I'll be able to unload for a huge profit the 10,000 gallons of gasoline I hoarded before Y2K. I'm ready!
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:20 pm to fareplay
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When the dust settles and iPhones are $3000, half the people are unemployed, and our 401k has $38, we can finally go all in on $.20 voo
I am sure you are being sarcastic (I hope) but iPhones will never be $3000.00 in today’s money because they can’t sell them for that. Then we would all just keep our 1-2 year old iPhones.
The horror!!
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:25 pm to Nole Man
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Just sold the shares. Not for the faint of heart and I'll probably quit doing this soon. Too volatile.
Nice while it lasted.
nope. it is wild.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:39 pm to SECdragonmaster
It’s sarcasm but not really. The cost of production likely increases by greater than 3x but as you said, that would mean companies won’t be able to sell as much and therefore profit margins go down because they price it lower than 3x but higher than 1x or even 2x. Negative impact to earnings and red portfolios for everyone
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:41 pm to fareplay
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The cost of production likely increases by greater than 3x
You think the cost of production is going to triple? Honestly?
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:48 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Parts shipping is expensive
Labor is expensive
Power is expensive
Factory construction is expensive
So yes I think it will go up 3x
Labor is expensive
Power is expensive
Factory construction is expensive
So yes I think it will go up 3x
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:51 pm to fareplay
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:59 pm to Fat Bastard
VIX: A Bullish Indicator??
Interestingly, while traders often use the VIX as a short-term broader market fear gauge, the index's extreme levels historically have been a bullish long-term indicator for stocks.
After three-day VIX spikes since 2014 ranging from 63% to 176%, Bilello has found the average one-year return for the S&P 500 (^GSPC) has totaled about 4.4%. Five years after the VIX spike, the S&P 500 has averaged a 10.2% return.
Buckle up!!
Interestingly, while traders often use the VIX as a short-term broader market fear gauge, the index's extreme levels historically have been a bullish long-term indicator for stocks.
After three-day VIX spikes since 2014 ranging from 63% to 176%, Bilello has found the average one-year return for the S&P 500 (^GSPC) has totaled about 4.4%. Five years after the VIX spike, the S&P 500 has averaged a 10.2% return.
Buckle up!!
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:13 pm to Nole Man
im ready
let it crash.
looks like it will get much worse before it gets better.
will be huge buying opportunity. havent bought much on these dips. keeping powder dry fir a huge buy as my guess is we keep dropping.
i'll go big on VOO on QQQ.
let it crash.
looks like it will get much worse before it gets better.
will be huge buying opportunity. havent bought much on these dips. keeping powder dry fir a huge buy as my guess is we keep dropping.
i'll go big on VOO on QQQ.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:23 pm to Fat Bastard
When do you think it will bottom out?
Posted on 4/8/25 at 9:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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When do you think it will bottom out?
That’s the thing, you can’t know until it’s passed.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 9:08 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Lots of rumors about a potential implosion in the basis trade over the next few days. 3Y SOFR swap spread hit a record low today. If the repo market siezes up and the fed doesn't come to the rescue asap, we have a serious crisis on our hands. Algo trading turns these events into an absolute tailspin.
My tiny bit of hope is that Bessent understands all of this extremely well and is providing good advice to DJT.
My tiny bit of hope is that Bessent understands all of this extremely well and is providing good advice to DJT.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 9:11 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I think soon but not necessarily price wise. The velocity and violence of this downturn will be put in check fairly soon one way or the other IMO.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 9:15 pm to Azazello
The vitals in the after hours have been concerning. I hope the fed is on call.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:33 am to SECdragonmaster
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I am sure you are being sarcastic (I hope) but iPhones will never be $3000.00 in today’s money because they can’t sell them for that.
Seems like a great entry point for Elon to introduce the X phone. Works on the Starlink network. Total encryption and privacy. Made in America. Going to be a great time for innovation out of chaos. Hold onto your nipples boys.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 5:10 am to Drizzt
I’ve wondered why he hasn’t taken a swing at Apple. It feels ripe for disruption. Starlink aside, he has or has had major properties in mobile payments, AI and social media.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:34 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Dow Futures down -2.28%.
vs TR 2X Long VIX Futures ETF (UVIX)
92.37 +18.88 (+25.69%) 04/08/25 [NYSE Arca]
104.46 x 1 105.12 x 1 Pre-market 105.00 +12.63 (+13.67%) 08:19 E
Buckle up!
vs TR 2X Long VIX Futures ETF (UVIX)
92.37 +18.88 (+25.69%) 04/08/25 [NYSE Arca]
104.46 x 1 105.12 x 1 Pre-market 105.00 +12.63 (+13.67%) 08:19 E
Buckle up!
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:38 am to Nole Man
It seems like the market crashes every time y’all run off ancient tiger
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