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Which debt to tackle first?

Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:49 pm
Posted by Athletix
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Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:49 pm
My situation. 25 married. Wife's a teacher income is around 43000. She's just starting so I don't know her exact monthly take home, but safe to say around 2500-2700. My take home varies greatly with overtime each month. My minimum take home per month is around 3800, but I can get to around 6000 a month. Safe average is around 4500.

Our debts
My student loans- 31,000 avg %= 5.8
Her student loans- 60,000 avg%= 6.1
My truck- 41,000 2.89%
Her car- 18,000 3%
Trailer home- 43,000 10%

My reason for starting this thread is the trailer home. I live on family land and plan on building a house next to the trailer in 5-8 years. So, I'm trying to make sure I'm correct in directing all of my extra money towards the trailer even though I'll be out of it in 5-8 years...

Posted by Maniac979
The Great State of Texas
Member since Jan 2012
1964 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 7:55 pm to
Do you plan to sell the trailer when you move into the house?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
52036 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:02 pm to
Trailer is a toss up. Is it worth about $43,000 now? Like the other poster asked, are you going to sell it?

I would go:

Her loans
Your loans
Car
Truck
Trailer
Posted by Athletix
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Member since Dec 2012
5120 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:09 pm to
The plan would be to sell the trailer. There's the slight chance, less than 10% that we'd move it and use it as a camp.

From doing some research I think I can get 30-35000 for the trailer in 5-8 years. Could be less, but that's an assumption based on people around me selling/buying used trailers.

Idk it's exact worth right now. Bought new for 45,000..
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17493 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:19 pm to
I would think twice about pouring money into a depreciating asset. You just said no matter what you do its worth 8k less than today when you sell it.

Honestly my advice would be to get rid of the car payments before anything else. The student loan interest isn't a huge deal and pay the minimum on the trailer... but either pay the cars off or buy something cash and save the money
Posted by Athletix
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Member since Dec 2012
5120 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:30 pm to
Car notes first? I understand the comment about not pouring money into a depreciating asset, but that's what I'm doing if I focus on the car notes. I threw the car notes out there just to give an idea of my debt, but I figured with the low interest rate they'd be my last priority...
Posted by BigD13
French Settlement La
Member since Sep 2013
2571 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:54 pm to
I follow the Dave Ramsey plan. Pay minimums on everything except the smallest loan.
Take all the extra money and work on paying off car 1st
Then focus on your student loans

Dave would tell you to sell your truck and find a reliable cheaper vehicle and pay it off

Then if you make it this far her student loans will be easy.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17493 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 8:55 pm to
Well... I think you should try to drive paid off cars. I don't know where you are in the loan table. I also don't know the need for a 40k automobile. The wifes number seems a lot better.

Eta: are you having cash flow issues? I mean if so sell the truck and buy something cash or buy at 15k range.

But if you aren't having money issues.... ENJOY BEING 25
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 8:58 pm
Posted by Athletix
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Member since Dec 2012
5120 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:10 pm to
quote:


But if you aren't having money issues.... ENJOY BEING 25


That was the truck purchase. Neither the wife or I came from anything, so the truck was my guilty purchase (was a big one but I love it).

That's the thing. I make plenty to handle all the bills, and I contribute about 11% of my base salary into the 401k. I'm just trying to figure out what's best to do with that extra money. I know the big advice here is to max a Roth out, but I'm putting around 7-8k a year into my 401k, and I have a pension. So, I think I am on the right track at the moment when it comes to retirement. I also spend a decent bit in just enjoying life. I'm not too tight when it comes to doing things, and I've already built up a decent cushion in the bank. So, I just want to figure out what would be the best place to focus the extra money after all the above is done and taken care of...

Edit: I know I'll get coached on putting more than the company match into my 401k while I have the debts I currently have. Maybe it's an accountability thing, but I like knowing every check I'm contributing a decent bit to my retirement. I don't want to neglect the retirement to focus on debt, and then have a bad habit of not contributing linger on later in life...
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 9:14 pm
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60812 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:16 pm to
quote:

That was the truck purchase. Neither the wife or I came from anything, so the truck was my guilty purchase (was a big one but I love it).


Dude, I know you need to show off for the boys, but a $41K truck for someone in your position is just stupid.
That's the kind of stuff you guy when you are almost debt free and the kids are out of college.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
79588 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

a $41K truck for someone in your position is just stupid.
Posted by Athletix
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Member since Dec 2012
5120 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:15 pm to
Figured I'd get a lot of responses like this instead of actually trying to answer the question I posted... I'll make 115 this year and and will gross 120-140 from here on out. Figured I'd have something nice while working so much.

I have to have a 4 wheel drive truck for where I go hunting wise... A brand new 4 wheel drive truck doesn't run 20k these days, but I'm explaining something I don't need to.
Posted by RJSambola
Member since Jun 2012
322 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:37 pm to
I don't see where selling the trailer makes a difference. That 10% rate should be your target.

If you do sell it after you've been paying it down take the extra earnungs from the sale to pay down something else
Posted by Kramer26
St. George, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6456 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:37 pm to
I'd pay off the trailor first since it has the highest interest
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10485 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 11:02 pm to
Sell the truck, build the house now. Then sell the trailer.

If you can mange to self contract, put some elbow grease into the home; lay your own floors, do the trim, paint, landscape, etc. then you'll walk in with some solid equity.

Use that to pay down (or off) your student loans at a much cheaper interest rate.

You make plenty of money. It sounds like you have a spending problem.

Just my opinion. Good luck though.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 2:40 am to
quote:

Figured I'd get a lot of responses like this instead of actually trying to answer the question I posted...


Your question was what debt to tackle first. And we're telling you to get rid of the truck.

quote:

I have to have a 4 wheel drive truck for where I go hunting wise...


That isn't a have. It's a want.
This post was edited on 7/30/16 at 2:42 am
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 6:15 am to
Honestly not sure why folks are telling you to get rid of your truck when you've already stated that's the purchase YOU wanted and aren't crippled by debt. They are giving you advice as if you are about to file for bankruptcy and certain trucks don't depreciate like they used to.

Anyways, I'd tackle your wife's car loan first. And then with your wife being a teacher see if she can qualify for loan forgiveness after 10 years of payment, $60K is a big loan number for a teaching degree. I'd then focus on knocking out the truck as quick as possible so you don't have a $600 payment hanging over your head for the next 5 years. Your student loans would be next, use some of the money you were throwing at your truck loan to pay off student loans. I wouldn't be too concerned about the trailer because you don't NEED to build a house in 3-5 years, build one when you are financially ready to.
This post was edited on 7/30/16 at 6:16 am
Posted by Athletix
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Member since Dec 2012
5120 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 6:22 am to
quote:


If you can mange to self contract, put some elbow grease into the home; lay your own floors, do the trim, paint, landscape, etc. then you'll walk in with some solid equity.



So, this here is why I live in a trailer instead of renting or owning another home. When I do build I'm going to contract it out. I'll also do the electrical, plumbing, trim, flooring and other small item jobs. So, I knew going in I would lose on the trailer, but I needed to be on the land if I was gonna realistically contract it out myself(w/ help).

Also the house has to wait since I'm just not ready to build a home. Plus this isn't won't be a stater or stepping stone home for me. Since it's on family land I'll live in it forever...

quote:

It sounds like you have a spending problem.

I have no credit card or other high interest debt (outside of the home). Outside of the months where I paid for a wedding, I bring in quite a bit more than I spend. If owning a new truck constitutes a spending problem...then I guess I have one.


My plan- pay trailer off in a couple years. Build house in 5-8. Sell trailer after completion of the house and use that money to payoff the student loans.


Edit:
quote:

Anyways, I'd tackle your wife's car loan first. And then with your wife being a teacher see if she can qualify for loan forgiveness after 10 years of payment, $60K is a big loan number for a teaching degree. I'd then focus on knocking out the truck as quick as possible so you don't have a $600 payment hanging over your head for the next 5 years. Your student loans would be next, use some of the money you were throwing at your truck loan to pay off student loans. I wouldn't be too concerned about the trailer because you don't NEED to build a house in 3-5 years, build one when you are financially ready to.


Appreciate the response. She has/is exploring loan forgiveness. She does have a masters just not fully using it. Focusing on her car note first? Is it to follow something similar to the Dave Ramsey snowball method. I've read his stuff and it works.. It's just that I was trying to squeeze the most out of the debt payments. 10 years from now how do I come out paying the least amount in interest...
This post was edited on 7/30/16 at 6:33 am
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
18516 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 6:57 am to
Pay the cars off first.

Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 7/30/16 at 7:00 am to
There is a lot of shifty advice here, so I'll help you out.

Reduce your 401k contributions to the minimum required to get the company match. Do not fund an IRA until your trailer is paid off.

Pay off the trailer first. It's the highest interest rate and close to the smallest balance. It's also secured debt and it is secured by your home. This is an absolute no brainer.

Pay off her car next. It's a low interest rate, but it's a small balance, so paying it off will decrease your total debt service the most.

Start funding a ROTH if you are eligible, keep 401k at match minimum.

Price out refinancing your student loans. You have a pretty good rate, but you never know what's out there.

Your student loans because of size, even though the rate is sloghtly lower.

Her student loans.

Your truck.

I understand wanting to have a nice vehicle if you are working all the time. You probably "shouldn't" have bought such a baller vehicle, but it sounds like you can make it work, so props to you.

Come and find me somewhere if you have questions.
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