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re: What’s the point of a State Farm “Insurance Agent”?

Posted on 4/21/21 at 7:22 pm to
Posted by PennyPacker
Where things are bigger and better
Member since Jan 2010
1028 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 7:22 pm to
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The lady I spoke with told me that if they sent an adjuster out, they may raise my rates regardless of whether or not there was any hail damage


The lady you spoke to was ignorant. Hail(weather-cat) claims don't affect your individual rate.
Posted by LSU
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
8836 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 7:27 pm to
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What’s the point of a State Farm “Insurance Agent”?


They're salesmen. It's that simple.

I've done every insurance claim via a corporate 800 number or online over the past 25 years. No need to speak with a local agent at all after you've signed up.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84995 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 8:27 pm to
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If I was him, I’d at least call my customers every fiscal year but apparently that’s beyond him. Even when I said I was switching they left it to the office secretary. Just pathetic.


It sounds like your overall experience was shite, but I hope you don’t expect the agent you’re leaving to facilitate your transfer.
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4465 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 8:56 pm to
Insurance has changed a lot over the years. Agents might make 10% plus or minus off your policy premiums. So it’s a pure numbers game in order to create a book of business the churns any amount of profit back to them once they pay employees, overhead etc.

I had the same complaint until I learned the business I never heard from my agent and never got proactive advice from them. Then I learned that if they took the time to sit down with every single client like that they’d never make a dime.

That business sadly has become all churn and burn. Especially once the internet came along.

Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
36763 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 10:29 pm to
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It's never up to the agent to approve or deny a claim, though. They can only escalate it within the claims department for a more thorough review.

They are now allowed discretion up to like 10k to just pay the claim actually
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5279 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:28 am to
I worked for State Farm agents for a couple years before opening up my own independent shop in Gulf Shores five years ago. Some State Farm agents are good, young, eager, and professional. Most agents are just sitting on their books, hoping not to die, as they can't sell them.

My personal experience as an agent: In the past 7 months, our agency has filed 750 claims, which is likely more claims than most agents entire careers. We hired an in-house claim specialist, and have a file for every single claim. We never ask anyone to dial an 800 number to file, like the majority of other local agencies. We expedite the claims as much as possible, send out a comprehensive list of contractors, and send in all docs/estimates to the adjusters. Claims is literally all I've done for 7 months, and its exhausting, but its paying off. Our agency's business is up nearly 300% YTD, and several people are simply moving their policies to our agency. Our retention rate is 98%, at a time when people are generally pissed at insurance companies.

Insurance is a contract, and I sincerely believe a good agent makes all the difference in the world.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7456 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:44 am to
I had to call my agent this week. I had to let them know that their drive safe beacon was not getting data because the car has been in the shop for 2 months for warranty repairs.

Very friendly experience and about a 2 minute call.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14421 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:52 am to
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I’m probably the most difficult guy in Lake Charles to deal with insurance wise because I ask so many questions.


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Lost all 6 lines of my business that day. It’s like $763/mo. Apparently not very important.


Maybe his client base is so strong that your business, combined with the attention you require, isn’t worth that much of his time?

Sounds like he helped you find another agent without having to actually fire you first.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10577 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:59 am to
Apparently he doesn’t need the business. That’s fine by me but that still strikes me as terrible. Especially if you’re supposed to be running it like “it’s your own business”.

I’d be on the hustle all. the. time. Word of mouth is such a big deal here in LC.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
78689 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 9:15 am to
So which is it ? Is insurance a commodity as people like to say, or is it something that requires a competent agent who can give you an hour of his time when you need it? And are you willing to pay a bit more to have an excellent agent/ agency? Most people are not.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10577 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 9:25 am to
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So which is it ? Is insurance a commodity as people like to say, or is it something that requires a competent agent who can give you an hour of his time when you need it? And are you willing to pay a bit more to have an excellent agent/ agency? Most people are not.



My rates are probably already amongst the highest just by virtue of being with State Farm.

If you want to get right in to it, yes, they should at the initial policy set up to advise what is the correct limits and coverage for your situation.

This is how people in Lake Charles got absolutely screwed because the ignorant ones didn’t know to ask questions and their Agents failed to interact with them. They just “trust” they got enough insurance. It happened to my family with Farm Bureau.

Instead, you still have to ask 1000 questions about coverages, exclusions, gaps, etc because the Agent has failed his duty and believes he can rub his nuts to more affluent corporate accounts.

That’s the truth of it. They aren’t serving their basic customer needs. I promise you those affluent corp accounts are likely a much smaller part of their business than residential.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78689 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 9:32 am to
I also think a lot of these agents probably don’t have the level of expertise consumers assume they have. So any in- depth interaction is just an opportunity for them to be exposed.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14421 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 9:52 am to
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Apparently he doesn’t need the business. That’s fine by me but that still strikes me as terrible. Especially if you’re supposed to be running it like “it’s your own business”.

I’d be on the hustle all. the. time. Word of mouth is such a big deal here in LC.


I'm not trying to give you a hard time and I thought just like you do not too long ago. I'm on the other side of things now and there is a balance to maintain.

You're not a bad client per se. To give you the attention you require, at the rates he charges, may be costing him money. If it were me, and this was the situation, I wouldn't ignore you but I'd charge the appropriate fee for my time and you would either pay it or decide to find an agent that can take care of you like you want for the price you'd like to pay.

I've found that's the most amicable way to handle these situations.

***This guy could also just be lazy and content and not service any of his clients. I'm just giving another perspective on what could be happening.***
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10577 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 10:14 am to
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give you the attention you require, at the rates he charges, may be costing him money. If it were me, and this was the situation, I wouldn't ignore you but I'd charge the appropriate fee for my time


If I’m setting up insurance with your agency, you’re going to charge me money to advise me on the policy I’m buying from you?

It’s not I refuse to pay the appropriate rate. This just seems ridiculous. A little bit of effort from a Insurance Agent at the beginning doesn’t strike me as that big of a deal or improper.

But hey, whatever. Maybe I just have old school ideas.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16909 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 10:18 am to
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You're either a very successful agent's son with tons of money or you absolutely killed it while working in another agent's office over the course of a year or more


like an Edward Jones...

i know at minimum a dozen SF agents. most all went through agent aspire. maybe a few are actually good at insurance. all can sell though, which is mostly all that matters to SF.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14421 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 10:37 am to
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It’s not I refuse to pay the appropriate rate.


The definition of appropriate is relative.

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A little bit of effort from a Insurance Agent at the beginning doesn’t strike me as that big of a deal or improper.


I didn't say anything was improper.

I was just giving you another perspective from the business owner side of things. I'm a CPA. My operations/billing setup is a little different but, imo the concept I put out there still applies.

At the end of the day, you went elsewhere and I hope your new agent is a better fit for you. Have a good one.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37115 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 11:01 am to
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It’s like $763/mo. Apparently not very important.


They probably make like $10/month off of that.

I use an independent agent, and after Zeta, it was nice to have someone to talk to about our claim issues.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10577 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 12:48 pm to
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They probably make like $10/month off of that.


I’m their typical business client that makes no claims and they’re making $10.00 a month, then I doubt they’d even be making payroll.

They’re making money bruh. State Farm would drop you otherwise. I know. Happened to me when I was a young driver.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81654 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 12:58 pm to
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goofball
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goofballs


What exactly qualifies them for this?
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5279 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 1:19 pm to
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They probably make like $10/month off of that.


It’s between 10-12% brah, so your math is way off.
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