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re: What’s causing the sudden crypto run up?

Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by TigerTatorTots
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:40 pm to
Arguing these points with Slidell is like trying to teach a monkey how to build a spaceship. It just isn't going to click for him.
Posted by SlidellCajun
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 2:54 pm to
The question still stands
What do you use your bitcoin for?
This post was edited on 8/25/26 at 2:55 pm
Posted by TigerTatorTots
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:19 pm to
For the currency of the place I reside in at the time that I needed to purchase something. If I lived in Japan, I'd trade it for the Yen, if I lived in Europe, I'd trade it for Euros. If I lived on a deserted island where the tribal people used shells as money, i'd trade it for that. Your question, that you have asked no less than 50 times on this forum on the past year, proves absolutely nothing that you think it does.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:11 pm to
I was enjoying the crypto bros melt down the last few months. Now they’re back saying it’ll be a million soon
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:20 pm to
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For the currency of the place I reside in at the time that I needed to purchase something.
. To me this is the disconnect. You’d have to trade your bitcoin for the very same fiat currency that bitcoin is supposed to replace, and the very same fiat currency that we are being told over and over again is going to collapse. And yet, you can’t buy anything with your bitcoin until you convert it.

It doesn’t make any sense from the outside looking in
Posted by 98eagle
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 8/25/26 at 10:02 pm to
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And yet, you can’t buy anything with your bitcoin until you convert it.
Currently, over 15,000 businesses worldwide accept Bitcoin, including about 2,300 companies in the United States, including AT&T, AMC Theaters, Microsoft, 1-800 Flowers, NewEgg and a lot more. Many use Bitpay, Crypto.com or other apps to accept Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin and other crypto payments. The merchant can elect to keep the payment as crypto or convert the payment to the currency of their choice if they desire.

The buyer pays in crypto. The buyer is not doing any conversion to Fiat at the thousands of merchants who accept crypto, unless the buyer wants to at stores, etc that don't accept crypto payments.

Also, with Shopify, millions of independent merchants using the Shopify e-commerce platform can enable direct Bitcoin and crypto checkouts. It is estimated that thousands do this, but there is no exact count.

A cryptocurrency debit card works by instantly converting your digital assets into local fiat currency at the point of sale, letting you spend crypto anywhere standard cards are accepted.

Who Accepts Bitcoin Payments in 2026?

250+ companies & stores that accept cryptocurrency

A limited but substantial number of companies accept direct cryptocurrency payments, while others accept Bitcoin and other tokens through third-party apps.

Cryptocurrency debit and gift cards expand the usability of Bitcoin, allowing holders to transact in spaces that don't otherwise accept cryptocurrency.

Options like the Crypto.com App support paying with Bitcoin for participating retailers and brands, bundling security with incentives like rebates and rewards.

Despite variability in direct merchant acceptance, options like Crypto.com Pay ensure that dedicated crypto enthusiasts can effectively use Bitcoin in everyday commerce.

Also, Bitcoin is not trying to replace any currency. Bitcoin is decentralized, public digital ledger that can be used as an investment and as a form of payment for goods and services.
This post was edited on 8/25/26 at 11:24 pm
Posted by SlidellCajun
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:10 am to
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For the currency of the place I reside in at the time that I needed to purchase something.


It doesn’t appear that you use Btc as a currency so it’s either a longterm holding or a trade.
If you’re willing to take the risk, you can do what you like. Obviously. I think you realize the risk.

You still need the USD to trade for your BTC in order to realize your position.

I’ve done the same. I’ve owned bitcoin. I still own coinbase but underwater there. It’s a trade though.

This post was edited on 8/26/26 at 9:36 am
Posted by SlidellCajun
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 7:21 am to
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Currently, over 15,000 businesses worldwide accept Bitcoin


Misleading at best. Smart business knows better than to take a crypto currency since it’s far too volatile. Imagine selling a latte to Chad for .0007 Btc and then having to convert it only to find that the exchange rate (to USD btw) has gone against you by 5% in one day! You just lost money on your sale! That’s a latte. Now imagine a car, or land, or a boat…. That exchange rate is reeeeeal important….
So no, smart business does not take crypto.

And imagine buying a car with crypto and then your coin just shot up 5%! You just lost 5% on a big purchase. Dumb. Real dumb.

What some have figured out is that they can offer exchange kiosks to allow YOU to convert your coin to USD and then buy your goods. It’s seamless and happens at the checkout. The customer thinks they’re buying with crypto but they’re not.

Bottom line here- a currency needs stability and many crypto simply isn’t stable. BTC certainly isn’t. The USD is. And that’s why smart business accepts it aside from the fact that it’s considered legal tender in the US and has to be accepted by legitimate business.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 10:47 am to
Because I finally sold all my Bit ETFs
Posted by Art Blakey
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 11:00 am to
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Arguing these points with Slidell is like trying to teach a monkey how to build a spaceship. It just isn't going to click for him.


Next time I'm tempted to engage I'm instead going to take a ball ping hammer to my knuckles and enjoy the pleasure I receive after I stop.
Posted by 98eagle
Member since Sep 2020
3658 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:38 pm to
I'm not debating that Bitcoin is a poor currency for most buyers and merchants due to price volatility and instability. Bitcoin is a distributed ledger that is used more as an investment, but it still can be used to make payments directly in Bitcoin.

You're correct that if you buy things with Bitcoin, you might wish you didn't after Bitcoin goes up. Bitcoin has a lot of price volatility even when it trends up or down or essentially trades sideways. There's no debate there.

I never said Bitcoin is some great currency trying to replace FIAT. Your reasoning is sound that Bitcoin can be a poor payment method from a merchant point of view for the same unpredictable price swings of Bitcoin that make it unstable. One note is that there are thousands of companies like Strategy (i.e. Microstrategy), Metaplanet, and small merchants and individuals on Shopify, etc. that want to accumulate Bitcoin and they accept payments in Bitcoin directly.

You actually missed the biggest reason that Bitcoin is not widely used as a currency, and that is because purchases are taxable in most countries including the US

Where you are wrong is that you think there are not thousands of Businesses worldwide that accept Bitcoin as payment. You think that Buyers pretty much have to go to a kiosk or Bitcoin ATM, and convert Bitcoin to cash before buying anything. In that event, yes the Bitcoin holder does a conversion to cash.

When a Buyer pays a merchant using a self custody wallet/debit card like Coinbase Wallet, Metamask or Wirex, when they buy something they are paying instantly with Crypto assets, not FIAT. The merchant receives the payment in FIAT. So neither the buyer or the merchant did the conversion. The self custody/debit card did the conversion automatically. This is drastically different from a Bitcoin ATM kiosk where the buyer does the conversion.

The BitPay and Crypto.com apps are self custody wallets plus crypto payment processors. Just like the debit card, the buyer is paying instantly in crypto assets. Whereas a wallet debit card always does an automatic conversion to FIAT, Bitpay and Crypto.com require the merchant to select whether they want to be paid in Crypto assets or FIAT of their choice. So it's the Seller that decides to make the conversion or keep the crypto.

Read the AI response below on how many merchants accept Bitpay or similar. Bitpay is a payment method within Shopify. There are likely thousands of small individual merchants at a minimum that sell on Shopify that are accumulating Bitcoin and other crypto directly as payment via Bitpay. If you don't believe that, you have your head in the sand.

How many merchants worldwide accept Bitpay and similar

Posted by TigerTatorTots
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 5:37 pm to
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It doesn’t appear that you use Btc as a currency .

No, and rarely anyone does. It isn't a good currency, never was its purpose.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82381 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 5:41 pm to
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. To me this is the disconnect. You’d have to trade your bitcoin for the very same fiat currency that bitcoin is supposed to replace,
Very few people think bitcoin will replace the USD. I'm as bitcoin maxi as they come and I think that is an insane view.
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and the very same fiat currency that we are being told over and over again is going to collapse
Well, it kinda has in purchasing power over the decades
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And yet, you can’t buy anything with your bitcoin until you convert it.

Correct, I won't hold the thing that is collapsing. If I need to buy something I'll covert something of value into that collapsing thing and buy whatever I need.

Posted by SlidellCajun
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Member since May 2019
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 8:44 pm to
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isn't a good currency, never was its purpose.


Educate us.
I, and many others, thought it was created as a Crypto CURRENCY.

This From grok-
“Bitcoin is a decentralized digital currency (cryptocurrency) that enables peer-to-peer transactions without intermediaries like banks or governments.“

Pretty straight forward


What other purpose was it created for?


This post was edited on 8/26/26 at 8:55 pm
Posted by 98eagle
Member since Sep 2020
3658 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 8:56 pm to
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What other purpose was it created for?
Evidently, for some people it was created to constantly criticize it.

For others it is an investment opportunity. Taking it a step further, some people learn how to trade Bitcoin volatility and turn it into a money generator.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 9:26 pm to
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trade Bitcoin volatility and turn it into a money generator.


That’s the only intellectually honest answer. BTC was created as a means to collect other people’s USD.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36685 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:05 am to
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BTC was created as a means to collect other people’s USD.
For the sake of historical accuracy, I’ll note that the person(s) that created the protocol has never exchanged btc for usd.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
8014 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:42 am to
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quote:
What other purpose was it created for?
Evidently, for some people it was created to constantly criticize it.

For others it is an investment opportunity. Taking it a step further, some people learn how to trade Bitcoin volatility and turn it into a money generator.


There is theory out there that the crypto movement was to condition everyone to having digital assets, so that the govts could get rid of hard currency and go completely digital. This limits freedom that cash gives you and not being tracked. This would also allow govt or law enforcement to complete shutdown your finances. Without cash or bullion that would be easy.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17697 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 8:02 am to
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For others it is an investment opportunity. Taking it a step further, some people learn how to trade Bitcoin volatility and turn it into a money generator.


I tend to agree that this is what it was created for whether intentional or not. Sure the concept of the peer to peer currency is alluring and fantastic in concept but it hasn’t worked.
It’s only a trading vehicle at this point


This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 9:24 am
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5970 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 5:25 pm to
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For the sake of historical accuracy, I’ll note that the person(s) that created the protocol has never exchanged btc for usd.


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