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Want to learn how to trade options

Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:00 am
Posted by BayouBengals21
Member since Mar 2020
132 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:00 am
Hey guys, relatively new to the stock market i guess. Been buying and selling stock for a few years. Never got into trading options but I want to learn. Anyone have a video, book, or can point me in a direction on where I can learn? TIA!
Posted by nated14
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
872 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:07 am to
Investopedia will give you a decent overview and it's online and was free
Posted by Kvothe
Member since Sep 2016
2018 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:10 am to
The Robinhood app actually explains it pretty well. If you go to a stock, hit buy, then options, it’ll lead you to all their info on how to trade them.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36319 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:11 am to
Once you start trading options, losing thousands in just a few minutes feels like nothing.
Posted by Delacroix
Member since Oct 2008
3985 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:17 am to
This guy has a lot of great informative videos on options In The Money - Youtube
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:17 am to
Check out the youtube videos on it. They are better than any explanation you will get here.
Posted by BayouBengals21
Member since Mar 2020
132 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 11:50 am to
Thanks everyone for the responses!
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
4995 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:17 pm to
Start selling covered calls on one of the stocks you own. Quickest way to learn.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17715 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:19 pm to
Options and Volatility by Natenburg is a good book. Super technical.

My boss made me read it as an intern in Chicago back in the day.

That being said, it can be insanely confusing but covers the basics very very well.
Posted by TchoupitoulasTiger
NOLA
Member since May 2011
1222 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 3:04 pm to
After seeing the commercial about 300 times on CNBC and trading options for awhile, I ordered Follow the Smart Money by Jon and Pete Najarian. It’s actually a really good book on options. It’s written in a way that assumes you know nothing about options. A lot of football analogies since they both played in the NFL. It explains all the Greeks and the most popular options strategies.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4081 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 11:33 am to
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Investopedia will give you a decent overview and it's online and was free


Very good starting point. Investopedia does an excellent job of helping beginners understand the terminology, how trades settle and which strategies are appropriate for various market conditions. With options, whether you’re going long or short, the “why/when” is at least important as the “how”... maybe more so, because the why/when will help you understand how to calculate risks and potential returns.

Don’t anybody take this the wrong way, cause I don’t mean it as a shot. But simply buying calls (blindly) and hoping that the stock pops, is not really options *trading* - that’s just slot machine type gambling. It’s fine to buy a lotto ticket every now and again. But whatever you’re doing with options, you have to understand implied volatility as it relates to option pricing, as well as the concept of theta/time decay.

As Nated14 said, Investopedia gives a great overview, as well as details. And depending on what type of trading you want to explore, OptionsAlpa and TastyTrade provide great, detailed (and free) resources for those wanting to learn premium selling (what I do). They both have YouTube channels too. The Najarian brothers are more into long strategies, but there are ways to do that without taking big premium hits - they can teach you how to do that. The firm that I deal with is SMB Capital, and they have a YouTube channel as well.

Although it’s tempting to watch, I’d avoid the CNBC show Options Action like the plague. The traders are seasoned and experienced. But the trades they typically offer are buy a call and hope, or trades you’d give to someone you really don’t like (I call them ex-wife trades).

You can make consistent and above average returns if you learn and develop a plan. You can make a living doing it... and you can do it in bull and bear markets. But you have to be serious and disciplined.

GL.
Posted by JimMorrison
The Peninsula
Member since May 2012
20747 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4081 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 12:22 pm to
Definitely.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19376 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

Start selling covered calls on one of the stocks you own. Quickest way to learn.


Safest way to learn too.
Posted by JimMorrison
The Peninsula
Member since May 2012
20747 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 2:56 pm to
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or trades you’d give to someone you really don’t like (I call them ex-wife trades).


can you give an example of this? What type of trades do they offer?
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15748 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 7:47 pm to
I sell puts at strikes I would place a limit order to buy the stock.I receive premium for this.
The risk is I have to pay that price for the shares.
I keep a cash position to cover all trades which is a “married” or “cash secured put.”

I sell calls at strikes I would place a limit order to sell those shares. I only do “covered calls.” I receive premium for this. The risk is I sold to soon.

Most options expire worthless. In my experience, it’s about 70% of the time.

I have had to buy shares or sell shares at expiration, but a majority of the time I just pick another date and strike and do it again.

Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38648 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

a majority of the time I just pick another date and strike and do it again.

as in, the option expires OTM and you just keep the premium correct?
and on the cash side if there’s a chance of having to buy the shares you keep 100x the strike price as collateral?

great post BTW
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38648 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:05 pm to
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makersmark1

you should start a thread on selling puts and calls I bet a bunch of people would like to learn how to do this, without all the exotics. Covered and/or cash secured
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
277 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 11:08 pm to
I'll second Cgrand's comment on starting your own thread. You could probably start your own Discord channel, or go to the one for MT and get a ton of listeners & learners if you wanted to.
Posted by thatguy777
br
Member since Feb 2007
2384 posts
Posted on 2/12/21 at 11:17 pm to
Jag you need to get in the discord, TD Money Talk. There is an options forum, not sure how to link it. Maybe you are already there?
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