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re: Wall Street Journal - 100k not enough anymore for home ownership
Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:09 pm to bayoubengals88
Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:09 pm to bayoubengals88
They left out “to buy the house they want”.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:29 pm to MetrySaint24
Something I found in my area a few years ago when house shopping, there is a severe shortage of "affordable" inventory in major metro areas. If a 3 bed 2 bath 1950's ranch fixer-upper "starter home" comes on the market, it gets snatched up by a REIT for rental, or a developer who bulldozes to build a $500k house on the lot.
The housing market is due for a correction. I'm not doom and gloom, I am just aware of cycles and have seen this before when I was in the mortgage business 15 years ago.
Local muni's need to stop rubber stamping permits for teardowns and high-end developments. In my area, at least. I can't speak for every area. All real estate is local.
The housing market is due for a correction. I'm not doom and gloom, I am just aware of cycles and have seen this before when I was in the mortgage business 15 years ago.
Local muni's need to stop rubber stamping permits for teardowns and high-end developments. In my area, at least. I can't speak for every area. All real estate is local.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:38 am to bayoubengals88
Maybe in Austin, NY, California etc but 100k is plenty to buy a home especially with record low interest rates.
People are generally just bad with money - mainly because they were raised by baby boomers who were the worst generation of all time.
People are generally just bad with money - mainly because they were raised by baby boomers who were the worst generation of all time.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 6:16 am to baldona
quote:They tell you this, or do you just assume? I have no idea what my friends student loans, savings, and retirement accounts look like.
Meanwhile their savings are shite, still have student loans, and barely making retirement contributions.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:37 am to Teddy1388
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I make in the 60s thousand a year, 4 kids, stay at home wife.
When I hear stuff like this, it makes me realize that I am horrible with money
It takes me back. We had our first kid and my wife stayed home and we did it on $55k/yr. There was a lot of prep that went into that life change as we eliminated all debt other than mortgage to make it work.
Now days, that made our life situation so much better. Things wouldn't be as good if we didn't go through that then.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:44 am to bayoubengals88
Sure it is. But nobody wants a shitty home.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:48 am to PearlJam
quote:People who such generally like to complain.
They tell you this, or do you just assume? I have no idea what my friends student loans, savings, and retirement accounts look like.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:01 am to PearlJam
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They tell you this, or do you just assume? I have no idea what my friends student loans, savings, and retirement accounts look like.
We used to have a poker night weekly and watch MNF, now we just hang out, talk shop, drink unsweet tea, and pay our bills together. It’s great fun.
Of course I make assumptions. But I also have a lot of friends that work for the government. So their pay is pretty well known.
The thing that gets people honestly with the larger houses is the small things like slightly higher taxes, utility bills, and the increased cost of furnishings. That $500-1000/ month comes in 5 different small bills so you don’t think anything of it. But $1,000/ month to savings adds up bigly over time.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:31 am to baldona
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now we just hang out, talk shop, drink unsweet tea, and pay our bills together. It’s great fun.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:50 am to MetrySaint24
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They left out “to buy the house they want”.
i think this is the key. sure the first house i bought was not what i wanted but what i could afford. The house was 140k and i was maybe making 48k per year. Money was super tight but at 25 years old it was one of the best financial decisions i have made.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:33 am to bayoubengals88
The next step up for us where we live is from a 2,000 sq ft house at $300,000 to a 3,000 sq ft house and price per square foot on new construction is at $200 or more in this area. In essence that’s going to be $300 a square foot more for those 1,000 feet and a note of almost double. I can’t stomach having to pay that and the $12,000-$18,000 we would have to pay on a mortgage for that pads our retirement each year and gives us an extra family vacation.
It’s a huge decision, but the smartest thing we can do is stay put and not worry about the Jones’s.
It’s a huge decision, but the smartest thing we can do is stay put and not worry about the Jones’s.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 9:56 am to TigerGrad2011
So I’m an entitled millennial because I’d rather live in a nice apartment than buy a “starter” home in the burbs?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 1:05 pm to bayoubengals88
If you live in BR you have to also consider whether you will have to pay for Private School Tuition. $100K doesn't go a long way in many places.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 1:09 pm to bayoubengals88
15yrs in the mortgage business tells me people over spend. Also people over pay. Average new home in Baton Rouge will run you $160sqft. You can drive 2 hours north to Jackson Ms and build a new custom home for $100 sq ft. Someone explain that one to me. I sure cant.
People get caught up in living in certain areas and want think they can't live in anything less than 2000sq ft. My pocket book loves this mentality out of buyers.
I bought my house 11yrs ago and i have friends ask me why my wife and i haven't upgraded homes yet. Our house cost $126k 11years agon in Central. I look at them and explain that i only owe 4 more years on my 1300sqft home.
People get caught up in living in certain areas and want think they can't live in anything less than 2000sq ft. My pocket book loves this mentality out of buyers.
I bought my house 11yrs ago and i have friends ask me why my wife and i haven't upgraded homes yet. Our house cost $126k 11years agon in Central. I look at them and explain that i only owe 4 more years on my 1300sqft home.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 1:55 pm to hawkeye007
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Average new home in Baton Rouge will run you $160sqft. You can drive 2 hours north to Jackson Ms and build a new custom home for $100 sq ft. Someone explain that one to me. I sure cant.
You really don't understand this?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:48 pm to fallguy_1978
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Yep. People don't want your 1500 sq ft starter home anymore.
To be fair, a 1500 sq ft starter home is hard to come by in cities where there are legitimate jobs. Furthermore, the 1500 sq ft homes that are available are predominately in highly sought after locations of these cities and have been completely renovated, costing upwards of $400/sqft.
Home ownership isn’t as black an white as it was pre 2000’s, regardless of wages.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:51 pm to windshieldman
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I make in the 60s thousand a year, 4 kids, stay at home wife.
This is impressive, and I commend you, but this is just not the norm for people living in regions with legitimate jobs and growth potential.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:57 pm to thegreatboudini
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Furthermore, the 1500 sq ft homes that are available are predominately in highly sought after locations of these cities and have been completely renovated
I know what you are trying to say but I disagree. The issue is that most 1500 sq ft homes are not in neighborhoods that someone that makes $100,000 wants to live. End of story...The key words there are MOST and WANTS.
Nashville, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, etc all have 1500 ft starter homes in less then highly sought after neighborhoods for reasonable prices. You have to simply give something up. That's a slightly underwhelming school for your kids, slightly longer drive, not as nice neighborhood, etc.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:13 pm to baldona
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I know what you are trying to say but I disagree. The issue is that most 1500 sq ft homes are not in neighborhoods that someone that makes $100,000 wants to live. End of story...The key words there are MOST and WANTS.
No, the issue is that there are very few 1500 sq ft homes to begin with in and around these legitimate cities. Which forces them to the suburbs. Okay, that’s not an issue, but now they are still stuck picking through 2500+ sq ft homes with a 2+ hour round trip commutes.
I’m from Avoyelles Parish, so I know there are plenty of decent 1500 sq ft houses to be had for $80 sq ft, but no matter what you want to say those homes do not exist in even the suburbs of these major cities. That is my point.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:38 pm to thegreatboudini
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No, the issue is that there are very few 1500 sq ft homes to begin with in and around these legitimate cities
I'll agree to disagree. I think there are more then you think, they are just not in neighborhoods you'd consider desirable for people that make $100k or more so most just don't even look.
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