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re: The fundamental lie of Crypto.

Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:38 am to
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:38 am to
I’m not sure if you’re intentionally being obtuse or just don’t understand what backs fiat currency.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11083 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 7:43 am to
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tomorrow countries around the world could decide to not trade with the USD and its value would plummet




Please do share. Which countries and institutions have this ability?

It “literally” didn’t happen in Russia but it’s nice that your fell for the political virtue signaling tactics because that’s why the West did it.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:13 am to
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Please do share. Which countries and institutions have this ability?

It “literally” didn’t happen in Russia but it’s nice that your fell for the political virtue signaling tactics because that’s why the West did it.


Lots of crypto bros seem to make this argument that 'anything could be currency' but can't express why 'anything' isn't.

Its a very long and bumpy road with a hell of a lot of requirements to get from 'could be' to 'is.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18153 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:23 am to
Too high % of BTC held in a very small % of people.
Billions and billions have no internet access. Cannot function as a global "currency".
But the sovereigns will adopt CBDC, eliminate cash and have 100% control of our lives.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43296 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:24 am to
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Crypto Bros are going to be in some dark times very soon. It is plummeting


shite, its my crypto first bear market. Buy buy buy. Take profits next bull cycle.
Posted by justsomedude
Member since Nov 2021
18 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 11:19 am to
tokenization of luxury items has begun. sports memorabilia coming online next. if all goes according to plan, our entire existence will be recorded on chain with infinite scale for all of eternity LINK

supernova hackathon starts today. hours away. rumor going around their smart contracts will be shown running an instance of linux on chain. will compete with AWS at pennies on the dollar. direct btc integration coming out of beta testnet this month. goodbye wbtc. and this chain only had it's first birthday yesterday. i hope you guys use the chains you invest in and not just buy internet funny money
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6495 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 11:29 am to
Any country lmao. They literally did it to Russia and that's no virtue signal, it happened.

Sorry if the fact that fiat is a social construct triggers you. But facts don't care about your feelings and crying virtue signaling doesnt change facts.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6495 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 11:46 am to
And what does the gov do to back their currency if no one wants to accept their currency? It only has extrinsic value from belief in it's value. Force and power may contribute to belief in the currency but is no guarantee.

The confederacy had force and an army to back their currency and it lost value before losing the war. The union devalued it by not accepting it.

Russia has an army and using it caused other countries to sanction them causing the ruble value to drop.


Governments can't force others to accept their currency. Hell the gov can and is devaluing their own currency by printing more.

Fiat is just as much a house of cards as crypto
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11083 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:35 pm to
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Fiat is just as much a house of cards as crypto




Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41174 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 1:28 pm to
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That is what a stablecoin is


That is what stablecoin was suppose to be. It was down to 26 cents on the dollar today, and needs over a billion dollar infusion to keep it stable.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15554 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 1:35 pm to
It’s just another P&D and no different than any other stocks. Inherent value is determined by the holder. It’s all a game.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 3:06 pm to
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It’s just another P&D and no different than any other stocks. Inherent value is determined by the holder. It’s all a game.


The holder of a company stock determines that value by looking at parameters such as changes in demand for the products and service of the company, assets it acquired or sold, new processes, or products being developed.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15554 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 8:57 pm to
Yes but ultimately it’s a game where all big players are trying to make the short term gains and will do whatever it takes. Wall Street Casino is no overstatement
Posted by LSU2a
SWLA to Dallas
Member since Aug 2012
2849 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:40 pm to
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At their core, gold and diamonds have real, tangible uses in manufacturing,


What percentage of diamond and gold’s value is due to industrial demand? Only 11% of gold is used for industrial uses.

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and thus will always retain at least some value.


Gold has value as a store of wealth due to its properties. It doesn’t corrode and it’s pliable making it easy to shape in regular forms for storage and quantification.

Bitcoin has value as a store of wealth due to its properties. It’s immutable, values are tracked by a globally distributed ledger that can survive everything short of a long term global internet outage, and storage is as easy as memorizing or writing down a series of letters and numbers. Network effects give bitcoin more permanence and value as it is further adopted.

Gold is exponentially more expensive to store and transport than bitcoin and very hard to scale.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27398 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 8:07 am to
It's not a currency. It's an equity....for now
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43296 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 8:54 am to
That is one algo stablecoin, that many experienced crypto traders and devs called for such a crumble. Better it fall apart now than later tbh. DAI and USDC (collateralized stablecoins) have held their peg.
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 8:54 am
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 12:01 pm to
Is anyone talking about this?

Terra Luna cryptocurrency collapses 98% overnight.

The Indy

Or this?

Crypto prices collapse with Tether latest ‘stablecoin’ to suffer

The Indy

quote:

Bitcoin is teetering on the precipice of an abyss, according to some crypto market analysts, with its price hitting its lowest level since July 2021.

The cryptocurrency has lost more than 50 per cent of its value over the last six months amid a market-wide downturn that has wiped more than $1.5 trillion from the overall crypto market.
quote:

There is widespread fear in the market on Thursday, after the Terra (LUNA) cryptocurrency fell by more than 99 per cent, dropping below $1 on Wednesday having peaked close to $120 last month.

The crash has pushed another stablecoin, Tether, below its dollar peg hitting as a low of 95 cents.
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 12:06 pm
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11083 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 12:05 pm to
I don't really pay attention but if Tether stays stable it's a good sign that it actually is relatively stable
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 12:08 pm to
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Bitcoin has value as a store of wealth due to its properties. It’s immutable, values are tracked by a globally distributed ledger that can survive everything short of a long term global internet outage, and storage is as easy as memorizing or writing down a series of letters and numbers. Network effects give bitcoin more permanence and value as it is further adopted.


Bitcoin CANNOT survive a loss in confidence. A loss in confidence can bankrupt a company and when they unplug, it is ALL GONE. Wiped away. You get nothing.

that's the problem with crypto.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42559 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 12:11 pm to
What does that have to do with bitcoin?
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