Started By
Message

re: Tax question - can my fiancee be claimed as a dependent if I 100 percent supported her

Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

Sure she can be claimed as a dependent. And if it slips by you'll get a letter in about three years demanding payment with a 25% penalty plus interest.

Get married if you want to file joint return.



Please don't post if you don't know what you're talking about. No advice is better than wrong advice.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41081 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:10 pm to
He's not asking to file with her... he's asking to file her as a dependent of his.

There is a difference.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

my fiancee


quote:

We had a child in 10/2016... She has been a stay at home mom since then.


I hope you have a prenup in place, no joint bank accounts, and everything is in your name.
Posted by LSUvegasbombed
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2013
15464 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:12 pm to
Lol
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:12 pm to
That wasn't a joke. This isn't the OT. That's just straight up real advice.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 5:13 pm
Posted by LSUvegasbombed
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2013
15464 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:14 pm to
I feel you. I haven't crossed that path but thanks for the heads up.
Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
17446 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 6:27 pm to
Head of household?
Posted by Stingy
TN
Member since Mar 2014
1907 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 7:40 pm to
But, an assumption is your answer yet I shouldn't post my answer. That makes since.

He will get a letter demanding repayment when they get around to it, genius.

Full disclosure: I worked for those assholes for many years and if she does pass the dependent test you will have to jump through hoops to prove it. Keep her doctor bills addressed to your address for last year and any school or other official docs.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 7:58 pm
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47645 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 8:17 pm to
Instinct told me no initially but after looking at the tables it appears that she is a qualifying relative.

Surprising.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

But, an assumption is your answer yet I shouldn't post my answer.


You didn't read the thread.

quote:

He will get a letter demanding repayment when they get around to it, genius.



Why? He took a deduction he was entitiled to.

quote:

if she does pass the dependent test you will have to jump through hoops to prove it.


I deal with the IRS and state tax departments on a daily basis, if you have your stuff together it's really not that bad.

quote:

Keep her doctor bills addressed to your address for last year and any school or other official docs.


That a W-2 with less than $5,000 will suffice and that'll be the end of it.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47645 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

Why? He took a deduction he was entitiled to.

While he is dramatizing it, its very possible the IRS will send him a letter

quote:

That a W-2 with less than $5,000 will suffice and that'll be the end of it.

He has to prove she was living with him though. I think that is what he was getting at.
Posted by Stingy
TN
Member since Mar 2014
1907 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 8:50 pm to
There is a reason you deal with the IRS on a daily basis... because they send lots of letters and they are often years letter. That is a fact. He will get a latter and if she does not qualify or if he doesn't have the proper docs then he will pay.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 9:00 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24215 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

There is a reason you deal with the IRS on a daily basis... because they send lots of letters and they are often years letter. That is a fact. He will get a latter and if she does not qualify or if he doesn't have the proper docs then he will pay.


For arguments sake, how does the IRS prove she didn't live with him? If she literally didn't work at all which would be fairly normal for a lady who just had a kid, and all the bills were sent to his house I'd think that would be enough?

The entire idea that you shouldn't do something because the IRS or the government might ask questions later is completely laughable.

OP, if she truly lived with you and you supported her 100% then you sound legit.

But OP, I agree with Breesus. lol. Tread lightly with someone who doesn't work and is living off of you before marriage.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

For arguments sake, how does the IRS prove she didn't live with him?


To be fair, the burden of proof here is on the taxpayer.

quote:

If she literally didn't work at all which would be fairly normal for a lady who just had a kid, and all the bills were sent to his house I'd think that would be enough?


That would absolutely be enough, and the IRS wouldn't fight you on that. She had a kid this year so I think its more than reasonable to assume she would have plenty of correspondence with a doctor/hospital sent in her name.

quote:

The entire idea that you shouldn't do something because the IRS or the government might ask questions later is completely laughable.


100% correct. Any deduction or credit taken is on the taxpayer to prove the validity of it. Under that logic the only thing that should be taken, essentially, relates to children because they are real breathing humans.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:12 am to
quote:

Should have had her file for benefits as a single mother with no income
this
Posted by LSUvegasbombed
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2013
15464 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:24 am to
seems very ghetto to do no?
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
7005 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 11:01 am to
The amount of bad advice in this thread is astonishing.

She absolutely qualifies for a qualifying relative and it is very unlikely that you will get a notice contesting this.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41081 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 11:13 am to
quote:

There is a reason you deal with the IRS on a daily basis... because they send lots of letters and they are often years letter. That is a fact. He will get a latter and if she does not qualify or if he doesn't have the proper docs then he will pay.


I've had clients in this situation probably 20 times. I have yet to get a letter asking specifically for proof of support to justify exemption. In fact, the only time I've ever seen IRS ask about this is during a research exam, when they are looking at every single line item anyways.

I'm not saying it will ever happen - 20 instances isn't even a drop in the bucket. But it does mean that a letter is by no means guaranteed. And so what? You provide the support documentation and move on.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 11:47 am to
It’s common....not unusual in the least. There are plenty of blended households, where an adult is non working (for many reasons from health to parenting to unemployment to inability to work) and living with a relative or friend who is paying the bills. Dunno why anyone would think that this is somehow unusual in contemporary America.

As for the “file for benefits”, give me a break. You can’t complain about freeloaders if your first response is to advise others (who do not appear to be needy) to belly up to the trough. “Everybody does it” is a pretty pathetic justification.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

seems very ghetto to do no?
of course , but if Elon Musk can suck off the government teat , so can this guy.
first pageprev pagePage 2 of 2Next pagelast page
refresh

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram