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re: Talk me out of a 401k loan

Posted on 8/18/25 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by Randall Savauge
Member since Aug 2021
533 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 2:11 pm to
401k
Posted by tigerrocket
Member since Aug 2008
168 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 2:52 pm to
The principal you repay isn't taxed twice. It’s just returning to your account. Yes, the interest is taxed twice, but that’s not unique to 401(k) loans. If you borrowed from a bank, you'd also repay interest with after-tax dollars, and that interest wouldn’t be tax-deductible either.

Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/18/25 at 3:09 pm to
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recouping some of that thru the interest you are paying yourself…correct?


Sort of true. The problem is you’re paying that interest with after-tax dollars. When you go to take it out, you’ll have to pay income tax (at ordinary rates) again on that interest (compounded) that you paid yourself. Kind of sucks.
Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
2153 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 3:52 pm to
That’s where I am. 401k projections look good with modest 5-6% returns../ but struggling for some things k. The present
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91268 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 4:00 pm to
Consider saving less, if that’s feasible. If you’re on track with a lot of wiggle room, it’s not the end of the world to “reward” yourself now with a little bit more free cash flow.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26365 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 5:14 pm to
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Consider saving less, if that’s feasible. If you’re on track with a lot of wiggle room, it’s not the end of the world to “reward” yourself now with a little bit more free cash flow.
yeah, definitely comes down to fixing the cash flow...either spend less or increase what’s in your pocket by saving less or bringing in more income somehow.

401k loan still has to be paid back, so if you have having cash flow issues now, then it will just get worse.
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
4056 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 5:27 pm to
401k is one of the most productive things you can do financially.

Buying a car is typically the biggest highly negative transaction a person does.

You're straight robbing one of the best things for one of the worst.

401k loans are for emergencies. Ur kid wanting a car isn't an emergency.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14819 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 7:01 pm to
Take it out next year and buy bitcoin
Posted by Ray Finkle
Collier county
Member since Sep 2007
1772 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 7:05 pm to
Never take out a heloc or 401k loan on a depreciating asset
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
87589 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 8:17 pm to
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The problem is you’re paying that interest with after-tax dollars


Posted by Deek
Member since Sep 2013
1235 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 7:02 am to
I wouldn't touch my 401 for something that has a good chance of being gone before the loan is repaid. Use this as an opportunity to teach you kid how to plan for a purchase and let them contribute. They have a year to work and put something back for it. My two cents
Posted by Skeeterzx190
Ponchatoula
Member since Sep 2019
336 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 2:45 pm to
You are losing out on the gains that lump sum withdrawal would have made plus the 3% you lost.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12267 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:13 pm to
Only time I did it was buying a house. We pulled it out 6 months before we started looking and it was a good move then. That is the ONLY thing I would do it for, and we have stable jobs.

I am getting 0% offers in my email for new cars daily, used 3.99 but I don't know if that is real. I wouldn't touch it for a car.
Posted by Revorising
Member since Jan 2013
1014 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:18 pm to
Trust me don’t do it.
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