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Student Loan Advice
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:09 am
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:09 am
Graduated in May, I have about 20k in debt and my parents have an additional 20k. Dad is between jobs at the moment, my mom barely covers our insurance from her job. My loan payments will be starting soon. Just looking for any advice on how I should go about this. Consolidate? Pay off a chunk at the start from what little savings I have? Work the corner? and
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:10 am to Mathias5k
Depends on your interest rate.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:11 am to Mathias5k
Make payments now while they are at zero percent.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:12 am to Tyga Woods
Believe about 1/3 of them are in the 4-5% range the rest are around 3%
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:13 am to X123F45
Planning to get it going very soon, trying to make sure I have some small cushion in the savings
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:13 am to Mathias5k
The easiest way is to tie it to your salary. I believe going that route has the rest of the loan forgiven after 20 years. If you have a Perkins loan there are stipulations in there that wipe that out. I wouldn't consolidate and NEVER consolidate your loans with your future wife's.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:14 am to MSUDawg98
well I have no plans on consolidating my loans with a future wife, but it sounds like you're speaking from experience, my condolences.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:15 am to Mathias5k
Can you get Covid forbearance? I think they extended it to December 31. That might give you some time to get on top of things.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:16 am to KamaCausey_LSU
I think I heard the same thing, my plan is to start paying as much as i can during the next few months
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:24 am to Mathias5k
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I think I heard the same thing, my plan is to start paying as much as i can during the next few months
Right, but I wouldn't tap into your savings to pay for the loan. Emergency fund is almost always #1 for money management.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:29 am to Mathias5k
quote:If you have success, let me know. I could join you. Lol
Work the corner?
quote:No. What if you need it for an emergency? There’s an extended grace period due to Covid as someone mentioned. Contact your lenders.
Pay off a chunk at the start from what little savings I have
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:30 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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Right, but I wouldn't tap into your savings to pay for the loan. Emergency fund is almost always #1 for money management.
This. With the unknown work situation on your fathers end pay as little as possible until the money situation becomes normalized. The last thing you want to do is stretch your finances tighter than they have to be when you don't know what the short term holds.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:33 am to Mathias5k
Covid forbearance is automatic and at 0%, so you’re good until January. Try to pay down as much principle now as possible and then set up income-based repayment in January. Depending on the plan, it limits your payment to 10-15% of your discretionary income (AGI - poverty level).
For new grads, there is a benefit for immediately doing IBR, as you likely won’t have an inflated AGI from working just yet. Your required payments will be low, but keep paying aggressively. If the money isn’t there in January, you (and your parents) can request a financial hardship forbearance for up to a year. The interest will continue to build, but you won’t have a payment due.
For new grads, there is a benefit for immediately doing IBR, as you likely won’t have an inflated AGI from working just yet. Your required payments will be low, but keep paying aggressively. If the money isn’t there in January, you (and your parents) can request a financial hardship forbearance for up to a year. The interest will continue to build, but you won’t have a payment due.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:42 am to Mathias5k
Try not to live beyond your means in the future!
Posted on 9/13/20 at 1:43 am to Mathias5k
Do the income driven plan and start paying in January. Take whatever you are wanting to pay now invest in a s&p 500 ETF instead. Keep adding to it monthly. Pay off your loans when you’ve made enough
This post was edited on 9/13/20 at 1:44 am
Posted on 9/13/20 at 4:18 am to Mathias5k
quote:
I think I heard the same thing, my plan is to start paying as much as i can during the next few months
This right here tells me you're a good kid. Do what you can with what you have. You will be OK.
Start out now where you stand.
Use What you have.
Do the best you can.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 5:50 am to Mathias5k
Pay off your parents first.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 6:37 am to Armymann50
this may be long, trying to keep it to minimum
My assumption - you have a job where you make significantly more than when were a student. This works even better if you are not working as student.
With what you owe - wouldn't expect you to pursue the forgiveness programs. But, consider using the income based repayment plans to keep required payment low. If you do, use your tax return from 2019 to make payment estimate. Youre required payment would be $0 if you didn't work in 2019. If you use income based and you show them your check stub to estimate - payment will be much higher.
I am not advocating you pay $0 - b/c the interest is still growing. Calculate what you need to pay to get rid of them in whatever period (5 years) and pay that. But $0 payment could give you some flexibility if emergency comes up.
Also - consider refinancing portion to variable private loan. The variable loan I have dropped to 0.68%. Certainly riskier but worked out for me. Not sure how much your rate would drop if you moved all to private
My assumption - you have a job where you make significantly more than when were a student. This works even better if you are not working as student.
With what you owe - wouldn't expect you to pursue the forgiveness programs. But, consider using the income based repayment plans to keep required payment low. If you do, use your tax return from 2019 to make payment estimate. Youre required payment would be $0 if you didn't work in 2019. If you use income based and you show them your check stub to estimate - payment will be much higher.
I am not advocating you pay $0 - b/c the interest is still growing. Calculate what you need to pay to get rid of them in whatever period (5 years) and pay that. But $0 payment could give you some flexibility if emergency comes up.
Also - consider refinancing portion to variable private loan. The variable loan I have dropped to 0.68%. Certainly riskier but worked out for me. Not sure how much your rate would drop if you moved all to private
Posted on 9/13/20 at 7:36 am to Mathias5k
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I think I heard the same thing, my plan is to start paying as much as i can during the next few months
Why? Is this your only debt? If so, I guess I understand. If not, student loan debt is low interest at your rates and it is wiped out if you die, meaning your significant other and/or children would not have to pay it. My rate is around 3%. I could probably pay mine off now, but it will definitely be the last loan I pay off. No reason for me to pay it early.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 8:56 am to MSUDawg98
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I believe going that route has the rest of the loan forgiven after 20 years.
I can't think of a scenario where 20 years of meager payments on a $40K sum + the tax bomb at the end of it (whatever is forgiven is counted as income that year) puts you ahead of paying it off early.
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I wouldn't consolidate and NEVER consolidate your loans with your future wife's.
I would definitely consider consolidating at least your own loans.
I'm one of the losers who consolidated in November of last year, so I'm missing out on some sweet 0 interest right now. But in essentially any other period, I would have come out ahead. And I haven't done the math, but I won't be very far behind when the rates go back to normal. My interest from consolidating is much lower (everything was up near 6-7% and is now down near 3.5).
As far as consolidating with the wife, I'd look at sums together but would probably keep them separate. And I would make sure that if I refi'd that there is a "the other spouse isn't responsible if I die" clause.
When talking about this sum of money, I'm generally in the "pay down debt, then invest*" crew. (*I think of retirement accounts differently and am referring to the folks suggesting to make minimum payments and put the rest in the s&p 500, presumably in a taxable account. I would at least get my employer match if it existed. Depending on the salary, I would consider either putting some money into retirement vs hammering out the loan short term. There are definitely benefits to both, and they are both solid strategies to the right financial plan and strategist).
OP, hop on a loan repayment simulator, plug in the numbers, look at the monthly payment over 3, 4, 5... years. Find the one that you can afford. Go with it, stick to it. The shorter the term, the better. I'm not entirely in the "rice and beans, beans and rice, get a second job" train, but I admittedly have always had a second job or two. I would budget around a payment you think you can make with a reasonable timeline that doesn't make you hate life, and then when the payment is gone, I would put most of that same money towards retirement and never "grow into" the new job salary.
It, again, varies a lot when talking about $15/hr, $50K/year or more. One size doesn't fit all. But OP sounds like he's on the right track and is learning the right questions to ask to set up for success.
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