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re: Stock Market Sentiment drops to lower levels than seen during the Dot Com Bubble/GFC

Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:27 am to
Posted by The Scofflaw
Metairie, LA
Member since Sep 2014
1490 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:27 am to
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Like it or not, quantitative signals all support this statement. The past 2 weeks have been pure uncertainty. Lowest volume days in a long long time. Volume = liquidity. Levels point to likely sideways or down another 20%. We needed to blow past 575 on the S&P to exit correction. The breakout failed and we're still hovering in uncertainty.



I just saw a stat that said when volume is this low on QQQ 6 days in a row, like it just did, we've been up 100% of the time a month later, and then mostly the rest of the year.

Also this:

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Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29859 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:55 am to
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I’m old enough to remember being told these tariffs were just a negotiation tactic.

It's certainly been an interesting, and very rapid, evolution. From "it's the Art of the Deal, snowflakes" to "by god, I will eat rice and beans for the motherland for as long as it takes to win this trade war!"

We continue to live in interesting times
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3681 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 8:57 am to
Don't worry. The people who make tariff decisions like to make money in the stock market too.
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
1629 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:03 am to
I don't watch the financial entertainment channels--are they mentioning the data that is coming in, or is it just TARIFFS TARIFFS TARIFFS?







Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29859 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 9:11 am to
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Don't worry. The people who make tariff decisions like to make money in the stock market too.

From an investment perspective, the only thing better than market certainty is market uncertainty when you have insider knowledge of imminent shifts in policy.

And the denizens of the federal government don’t exactly have a great track record of overcoming the urge to use their insider knowledge to enrich themselves.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3681 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:25 am to
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And the denizens of the federal government don’t exactly have a great track record of overcoming the urge to use their insider knowledge to enrich themselves.
Sure, but I'm betting things will be fine in the long haul and I'm not trying to time the market. I'll do my quarterly trades next week and will be selling bonds and buying stocks. I'm actually glad that this week has been down so prices will be cheaper. If they're down the following quarter then I'll buy more, rinse and repeat until I'm out of buying power.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
55765 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:35 am to
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It's certainly been an interesting, and very rapid, evolution. From "it's the Art of the Deal, snowflakes" to "by god, I will eat rice and beans for the motherland for as long as it takes to win this trade war!"

We continue to live in interesting times


People are ok being in cults now. Very few leaders, mostly a bunch of lemmings these days. Interesting times indeed.
Posted by Diffusedsmoke
Member since Mar 2022
12 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:44 am to
What exactly are you laughing at? Do you disagree?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29859 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:50 am to
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Sure, but I'm betting things will be fine in the long haul and I'm not trying to time the market. I'll do my quarterly trades next week and will be selling bonds and buying stocks. I'm actually glad that this week has been down so prices will be cheaper. If they're down the following quarter then I'll buy more, rinse and repeat until I'm out of buying power.

Of course; I'm not concerned. I just keep plugging away every week into the same funds, just like I always have. But this is the MT. The same people crowing on here during Trump's first term about how he should get 100% of the credit for a rising stock market now want to pretend as though he should get none of the blame for a cratering stock market. The hypocrisy is silly and should be noted as such.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51451 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 11:56 am to
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Probably, the S&P was way too high.

I agree with this. I still think it's overvalued.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
34210 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:09 pm to
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I agree with this. I still think it's overvalued.
Same. We took on a lot of debt and borrowed equity valuation from the future in the last 15 years. There’s a cost to that.

I call bullshite on this entire thread premise and the fear index. It can get way way worse. I’ve seen it multiple times and I’m not even that old. Not saying it will but the expectation for 10%+ annually from the S&P needed a reality check.
This post was edited on 3/28/25 at 1:34 pm
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34312 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:11 pm to
Yea Tom Lee and others were saying this last week. I listened, got suckered in and burned on a false breakout this week. Not imbibing the hopium two weeks in a row.

nB4 “muh fundamentals”
nB4 “so much cash in the sidelines tho”
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
144345 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:25 pm to
I've been having a buy order for VOO at $500 for a while now. When it didn't hit the mark 2 weeks ago I figured it wouldn't ever. But maybe there is a chance
Posted by rickyb223
In your walls
Member since Jan 2025
430 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 12:29 pm to
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Not imbibing the hopium two weeks in a row.


Everyone is acting like there will be mass capitulation on April 2nd, but does anyone really believe that the entire post-WW2 trade paradigm will just give up that easily? I don’t. I do think we’ll win this tariff war, but it may be a while.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
25286 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 1:29 pm to
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Everyone is acting like there will be mass capitulation on April 2nd


Idiot creates problem

quote:

we’ll win this tariff war,


Idiot solves manufactured problem to appear as a savior. Seals clap approval.
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
8122 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 2:12 pm to
you are the idiot there is a reason your poor
Posted by HVAU
Up over here
Member since Sep 2010
5031 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 2:53 pm to
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you are the idiot there is a reason your poor


Your poor what?
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28036 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 2:54 pm to
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Smart money sees the pattern. Do you?.
Such pretentious nonsense. Call it like it is. Market manipulation. What i have learned in my small time in the stock market, is that big institutions run it. While Trump puts a monkey wrench in it flipping it back and forth with sentiment, institutions use what Trump and Feds say to pick up and dump, playing this game to wait out all the ill-informed people and scared money. The only true thing big money didn't account for this year was the Deepseek thing.

See, we ran up too much and too fast and institutions didn't get on the ride fast enough. Now they've been trying to tank it to their levels to hop back on. Many big stocks and even smaller ones are below 6 months, and some even 9 months, prior prices. It's the same thing with crypto. Completely halted the bull run year because they finally wanted to get a piece.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
28338 posts
Posted on 3/28/25 at 3:42 pm to
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The direction seems clear now


Clear as mud.
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