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Starting business via SBA loan advice (updated-sorry bout that)

Posted on 7/31/21 at 1:41 pm
Posted by BayouBengal23
BR
Member since Mar 2019
632 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 1:41 pm
Need advice about starting a business via SBA loan. I have a solid business idea, business plan, numbers, and data to prove good results. I got all of this through the small business development center at my local rep. Next step is talk to a bank and get the SBA loan for about 400-500k. The only issue is they need 20% down. And I don’t have 100k lying around. What are the options here
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 10:18 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37727 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 1:47 pm to
20% down for what? Buying a property? Startup capital? Inventory?
Posted by BayouBengal23
BR
Member since Mar 2019
632 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 1:50 pm to
The SBA loan covers property and startup costs. No inventory. But our costs will be approximately 400k but they need 20% down. I just don’t have the 80-100k to put down to get approved
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70936 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 3:23 pm to
I wouldn't be starting a business with a half million initial investment needed if you get that 100% by debt. Pretty dangerous game to play there, especially if business doesn't make it.

Can you save up a sizeable amount of cash over time (couple years)? Or find some other investors?
Posted by nwacajun
St louis
Member since Dec 2008
1632 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 4:25 pm to
Investor. Don't let the bank talk you in to not doing SBA. If things go south it won't sink you ( bot as bad at least)
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
59172 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

The only issue is they need 20% down. And I don’t have 100k lying around.
find an investor.

Hell. There may be one here if the plan is really good
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
57017 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 8:09 pm to
I can front you 100k

Let’s talk about points
Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
3506 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:01 pm to
In the process of finalizing our SBA loan as we bought into a franchise. I echo what others have suggested; find an investor only if you don’t mind sharing profits. Cash from a family member would need to be a gift as a loan won’t qualify as skin in the game. Good luck!
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
82523 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

And I don’t have 100k lying around.


quote:

What are the options here




u want a single or multiple investors?

what type of business? where? numbers?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452741 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 7:59 am to
quote:

And I don’t have 100k lying around. What are the options here

I don't have 100k to invest but I can put you in touch with people who do. My broker fee is 15%.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17642 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 7:30 am to
quote:

for about 400-500k. The only issue is they need 20% down. And I don’t have 100k lying around


As a banker once said “we believe in your dream , do you” find the money…save make it happen….can you do 50k? If not probably a good sign to take a step back and reevaluate
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43781 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 7:49 am to
depending on where you live there may be angel investor opportunity via a broker or entrepreneur incubator. Or you could borrow from a family member. Or you could sell all your shite

100k ain’t gonna fall in your lap you’ll have to go find it
Posted by down time
space
Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 7:58 am to
Why don't you try a life insurance policy to sweeten the deal?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22516 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:49 am to
quote:

As a banker once said “we believe in your dream , do you” find the money…save make it happen….can you do 50k? If not probably a good sign to take a step back and reevaluate



This. If you don’t have $100k OP you shouldn’t be loaning $500k for a business. Far and away the biggest killer of small businesses is the lack of operating capital the first year. If you have to borrow close to 100% just to open then staying open is going to be even harder. You need to sell everything you have, save, and work 2 jobs until you can get more capital.

Also, SBA loans can be good but they should also often be looked at as a last resort. The SBA will loan to you when traditional options aren’t available, and that’s usually for a reason. You are likely going too risky.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
82523 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 10:05 am to
u want a single or multiple investors?

what type of business? where? numbers?





looks like another hit n run job on the good ole money board. This board has investors that could help you. But you ran away and avoided questions which speaks volumes. as john taffer from bar rescue says:







Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
82523 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

BayouBengal23


since you never returned you just made all that shite up didn't you?

Posted by BayouBengal23
BR
Member since Mar 2019
632 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:17 pm to
Haha sorry folks.. just getting around back to the post! Im a young hustler with a stable job that is making a ton of lagniappe but my brain just doesn’t stop thinking about business ideas. Really interested in starting a boat, camper, RV lot in a rapidly growing area filled with sportsman and HOA’s. (Purposely not saying where exactly, I hope y’all respect that). No need for permanent structure to start, so I think it’s a no brainer and can start making money quickly with the right game plan. They have a few in the area but if I don’t get in now the land will be too expensive and/or no availability to do such project.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:45 am to
- If you purchase property you can amortize for 20 years instead of 8

- If its not too late, encumber your personal investments/properties to avoid leins/personal guarantees

- Investor(s) are a good idea. With investors, you can open multiple LLCs with no cap on borrowing limits. At least in the 2000-aughts it was like this

- If purchasing an existing property/business, you can use the terms on your purchase agreement to significantly lower your down payment. I/we did this multiple times. We put less than 5% down on a pad in Cheyenne, WY with the seller "gifting" us much of the down payment. I don't recall how it was worded in the purchase agreement, but that's how it worked out.

My/our business plan was to open QSRs (quick serve restaurants) with property w/ 20 year SBA loans for each LLC, which were usually stand-alone pads. Then, sell the QSRs and keep the properties. We got to 9 QSR's and accompanying properties and sold the QSRs. Were were only about half a successful as we anticipated because 2007-08 crash happened. We were very undercapitalized for what we were doing so it was stressful making things work. We had business LOCs with three different banks totaling about $750k and had the good sense to park it in business accounts when the market started going sideways. This bought us the time we needed. Otherwise I might be panhandling under a bridge somewhere. In the end it worked out well.

Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
82523 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 2:07 pm to
Ok ok. Glad you returned ! Kudos! Most never come back! lol.
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