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Starting business via SBA loan advice (updated-sorry bout that)
Posted on 7/31/21 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 7/31/21 at 1:41 pm
Need advice about starting a business via SBA loan. I have a solid business idea, business plan, numbers, and data to prove good results. I got all of this through the small business development center at my local rep. Next step is talk to a bank and get the SBA loan for about 400-500k. The only issue is they need 20% down. And I don’t have 100k lying around. What are the options here
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 7/31/21 at 1:47 pm to BayouBengal23
20% down for what? Buying a property? Startup capital? Inventory?
Posted on 7/31/21 at 1:50 pm to BayouBengal23
The SBA loan covers property and startup costs. No inventory. But our costs will be approximately 400k but they need 20% down. I just don’t have the 80-100k to put down to get approved
Posted on 7/31/21 at 3:23 pm to BayouBengal23
I wouldn't be starting a business with a half million initial investment needed if you get that 100% by debt. Pretty dangerous game to play there, especially if business doesn't make it.
Can you save up a sizeable amount of cash over time (couple years)? Or find some other investors?
Can you save up a sizeable amount of cash over time (couple years)? Or find some other investors?
Posted on 7/31/21 at 4:25 pm to BayouBengal23
Investor. Don't let the bank talk you in to not doing SBA. If things go south it won't sink you ( bot as bad at least)
Posted on 7/31/21 at 7:31 pm to BayouBengal23
quote:find an investor.
The only issue is they need 20% down. And I don’t have 100k lying around.
Hell. There may be one here if the plan is really good
Posted on 7/31/21 at 8:09 pm to BayouBengal23
I can front you 100k
Let’s talk about points
Let’s talk about points
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:01 pm to BayouBengal23
In the process of finalizing our SBA loan as we bought into a franchise. I echo what others have suggested; find an investor only if you don’t mind sharing profits. Cash from a family member would need to be a gift as a loan won’t qualify as skin in the game. Good luck!
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:13 pm to BayouBengal23
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And I don’t have 100k lying around.
quote:
What are the options here
u want a single or multiple investors?
what type of business? where? numbers?
Posted on 8/1/21 at 7:59 am to BayouBengal23
quote:
And I don’t have 100k lying around. What are the options here
I don't have 100k to invest but I can put you in touch with people who do. My broker fee is 15%.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 7:30 am to BayouBengal23
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for about 400-500k. The only issue is they need 20% down. And I don’t have 100k lying around
As a banker once said “we believe in your dream , do you” find the money…save make it happen….can you do 50k? If not probably a good sign to take a step back and reevaluate
Posted on 8/2/21 at 7:49 am to BayouBengal23
depending on where you live there may be angel investor opportunity via a broker or entrepreneur incubator. Or you could borrow from a family member. Or you could sell all your shite
100k ain’t gonna fall in your lap you’ll have to go find it
100k ain’t gonna fall in your lap you’ll have to go find it
Posted on 8/2/21 at 7:58 am to BayouBengal23
Why don't you try a life insurance policy to sweeten the deal?
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:49 am to Tigerpaw123
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As a banker once said “we believe in your dream , do you” find the money…save make it happen….can you do 50k? If not probably a good sign to take a step back and reevaluate
This. If you don’t have $100k OP you shouldn’t be loaning $500k for a business. Far and away the biggest killer of small businesses is the lack of operating capital the first year. If you have to borrow close to 100% just to open then staying open is going to be even harder. You need to sell everything you have, save, and work 2 jobs until you can get more capital.
Also, SBA loans can be good but they should also often be looked at as a last resort. The SBA will loan to you when traditional options aren’t available, and that’s usually for a reason. You are likely going too risky.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 10:05 am to BayouBengal23
u want a single or multiple investors?
what type of business? where? numbers?
looks like another hit n run job on the good ole money board. This board has investors that could help you. But you ran away and avoided questions which speaks volumes. as john taffer from bar rescue says:
what type of business? where? numbers?

looks like another hit n run job on the good ole money board. This board has investors that could help you. But you ran away and avoided questions which speaks volumes. as john taffer from bar rescue says:

Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:34 pm to BayouBengal23
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BayouBengal23
since you never returned you just made all that shite up didn't you?

Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:17 pm to Fat Bastard
Haha sorry folks.. just getting around back to the post! Im a young hustler with a stable job that is making a ton of lagniappe but my brain just doesn’t stop thinking about business ideas. Really interested in starting a boat, camper, RV lot in a rapidly growing area filled with sportsman and HOA’s. (Purposely not saying where exactly, I hope y’all respect that). No need for permanent structure to start, so I think it’s a no brainer and can start making money quickly with the right game plan. They have a few in the area but if I don’t get in now the land will be too expensive and/or no availability to do such project.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:45 am to BayouBengal23
- If you purchase property you can amortize for 20 years instead of 8
- If its not too late, encumber your personal investments/properties to avoid leins/personal guarantees
- Investor(s) are a good idea. With investors, you can open multiple LLCs with no cap on borrowing limits. At least in the 2000-aughts it was like this
- If purchasing an existing property/business, you can use the terms on your purchase agreement to significantly lower your down payment. I/we did this multiple times. We put less than 5% down on a pad in Cheyenne, WY with the seller "gifting" us much of the down payment. I don't recall how it was worded in the purchase agreement, but that's how it worked out.
My/our business plan was to open QSRs (quick serve restaurants) with property w/ 20 year SBA loans for each LLC, which were usually stand-alone pads. Then, sell the QSRs and keep the properties. We got to 9 QSR's and accompanying properties and sold the QSRs. Were were only about half a successful as we anticipated because 2007-08 crash happened. We were very undercapitalized for what we were doing so it was stressful making things work. We had business LOCs with three different banks totaling about $750k and had the good sense to park it in business accounts when the market started going sideways. This bought us the time we needed. Otherwise I might be panhandling under a bridge somewhere. In the end it worked out well.
- If its not too late, encumber your personal investments/properties to avoid leins/personal guarantees
- Investor(s) are a good idea. With investors, you can open multiple LLCs with no cap on borrowing limits. At least in the 2000-aughts it was like this
- If purchasing an existing property/business, you can use the terms on your purchase agreement to significantly lower your down payment. I/we did this multiple times. We put less than 5% down on a pad in Cheyenne, WY with the seller "gifting" us much of the down payment. I don't recall how it was worded in the purchase agreement, but that's how it worked out.
My/our business plan was to open QSRs (quick serve restaurants) with property w/ 20 year SBA loans for each LLC, which were usually stand-alone pads. Then, sell the QSRs and keep the properties. We got to 9 QSR's and accompanying properties and sold the QSRs. Were were only about half a successful as we anticipated because 2007-08 crash happened. We were very undercapitalized for what we were doing so it was stressful making things work. We had business LOCs with three different banks totaling about $750k and had the good sense to park it in business accounts when the market started going sideways. This bought us the time we needed. Otherwise I might be panhandling under a bridge somewhere. In the end it worked out well.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 2:07 pm to BayouBengal23
Ok ok. Glad you returned ! Kudos! Most never come back! lol.

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