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re: Spec Play - HGRAF

Posted on 10/23/26 at 10:19 am to
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28622 posts
Posted on 10/23/26 at 10:19 am to
This is going to be unpredictable as hell until they start announcing progress on Bellville, NASDAQ, and contracts.

Teabagger is on here today, but where was he a couple of days ago?

At this point, we just have to wait, since we are approaching the inflection point we've been waiting for (for too long).

ETA: Volume stills seems to be low. Most retail investors are waiting and watching, at this point.
This post was edited on 10/23/26 at 10:22 am
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32637 posts
Posted on 10/23/26 at 10:25 am to
quote:

ETA: Volume stills seems to be low. Most retail investors are waiting and watching, at this point


Volume should jump one we are listed on the Nasdaq. If institutional investors see the light, we may be off to the races.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28622 posts
Posted on 10/23/26 at 11:40 am to
quote:

If institutional investors see the light, we may be off to the races.


That could be why they are quiet. They want to jumpstart the share price for NASDAQ listing AND catch the attention of the institutional investors at the same time.

None of this will matter if their are not contracts. If you plan on trimming on the way up, you can hedge against losses at the epense of potential profits. I have already said that I viewed this as a binary investment. Either to the moon or down to zero. I don't think they will go to zero now, no matter what - I think somebody will buy them out before that happens. I think the question is whether we go to the moon or stagnate.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20468 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 5:14 am to
When my investment doubled that's when I took the free ride. I'm at peace of mind.
Posted by masoncj
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2023
1026 posts
Posted on 10/25/26 at 8:18 am to
Been on a golf trip since Wednesday

Pretty solid week

This upcoming week should be fun

4 days to do go!
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28622 posts
Posted on 10/25/26 at 10:14 am to
For everyone being negative about thie recent drop in price, let's remember our attitude one year ago. Most people on this board were taking the binary approach - all or nothing. The dickheads were on the board calling it a pump and dump, and some of us were just buying up shares.

What changed? It went up to $8/share and the negative posters disappeared. Now it's down in the $2's, and the assholes are back again, dumping on the stock. But at least most acknowledge that it isn't a pump and dump at this point.

I look at it and think about how it took Nvidia many years to become a huge success. They ended up being in the best position to provide GPUs for AI when AI growth accelerated.

People don't remember how tiny Nvidia was, compared to Intel and AMD, because those companies made CPUs which were the heart and soul of PCs, and Nvidia specialized in graphics processing that was more for gamers. It wasn't until recently that the processing units had the speed and storage needed to really build an infrastructure for AI.

Now we have graphene - a market that has not exploded, yet, also because of limitations on the existing graphene - cost, dispersion, and clumping issues held it back. Those issues are being address by Hydrograph, and we are all hoping that Hydrograph will be the graphene of choice for the first adapters using graphene. If they do, then Hydrograph graphene could potentially be to the materials science world what Nvidia was to compute technology.

It probably won't happen overnight (it didn't for Nvidia), but once it gets rolling it could be huge, and I don't think it will take 20 years.
This post was edited on 10/25/26 at 10:20 am
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28622 posts
Posted on 10/25/26 at 10:18 am to
Now for the negative side. We don't know yet if Hydrograph will get the same kind of market share Nvidia does. Will Hydrograph graphene be considered the gold standard, like Nvidia chips? That has yet to be seen. What if they end up being a niche player in specialized applications and not the preferred graphene for the high volume users in concrete, plastics, and batteries?

That's the gamble we're taking. The purest and most versatile graphene may not be the most profitable in a massive TAM...

This post was edited on 10/25/26 at 10:21 am
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
5736 posts
Posted on 10/25/26 at 11:01 am to
I am keen on the hype around the paste product though not aware of any moat applicability.
Posted by masoncj
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2023
1026 posts
Posted on 10/25/26 at 11:36 am to
If they get a DoW grant for a few million dolllars the stock price will go over $10 over night
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28622 posts
Posted on 10/25/26 at 1:34 pm to
I think the moat is with the graphene itself. Putting graphene in paste form doesn't change the purity, conductivity or fractal nature of the graphene. It makes the graphene easier to mix.
Posted by Rendevoustavern
Member since May 2018
1992 posts
Posted on 10/25/26 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

go over $10 over night



Careful, some lurker out here will tell you that’s not possible.

I’d really dig my portfolio value when that comes true though
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32637 posts
Posted on 10/26/26 at 6:50 am to
I just asked Grok the average time between a Canadian company voting for and the actual redomicole taking place. The answer was 2-6 weeks with several examples of it being only 5-10 days.

That makes me feel a bit more optimistic: I worry that the price will drip down even more during that waiting period.

Also, At some point, they are to have to address the $4 minimum to uplisting. I asked Grok about this and it is definitely a requirement even though HGRAF meets the market cap threshold. GROK suggest a reverse split is in our future.


Any thoughts on a reverse spitt? Shouldn’t really affect us in any meaningful way, right? Reduce shares, increase price accordingly. Am I missing any drawbacks to a reverse split? I hope that they don’t put uplist on the back burner.
This post was edited on 10/26/26 at 7:00 am
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14629 posts
Posted on 10/26/26 at 7:21 am to
quote:

Any thoughts on a reverse spitt?

Damn.. is this how we get $10 overnight?
Posted by NorthMan
Member since Mar 2026
8 posts
Posted on 10/26/26 at 8:35 am to
Would you rather have 1000 shares (initial investment) at 10.00 or 500 at 10.00?
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28622 posts
Posted on 10/26/26 at 8:45 am to
quote:

Any thoughts on a reverse spitt?


I don't think it will be necessary. I think that the redomicile, plus a few contracts, plus Bellville groundbreaking will put it over $4. They seem to have some extra time built into the redomicile process, as the BC courts will be done in a couple of weeks, but they say redomicile won't be complete until January. I think they know that there may be some contracts or government announcements during that timeframe, so they can list on NASDAQ.

Of course, another possibility is that they are taking time with completing the redomicile to buy themselves time to negotiate a sales price. They may be planning to not list on NASDAQ (or start Bellville construction) unless they need to use it as leverage.

Just speculating that they have spent the last 8 months waiting on redomicile and what? Have they been adding value by creating new use cases, new patents, new customer relationships, new headquarters, new government deals, a testing lab, and what?

This company has to pivot from a pre-production R&D company to a manufacturing and sales company. Again, their staff is very heavy with people who have government programs experience and materials science experience. I may be connecting dots that don't exist, but how much is a company that has a strong patent moat, large pending government contracts, and numerous private contracts pending worth?


This post was edited on 10/26/26 at 9:02 am
Posted by masoncj
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2023
1026 posts
Posted on 10/26/26 at 8:54 am to
Amen!

That’s what I’ve been saying as well

Where the hell is the sales team development at?

They seem to only have highly technical eggheads on board trying to close deals

I don’t care how technical the product is. You gotta have some go-getters from the sales rep standpoint that are highly compensated to close deals
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28622 posts
Posted on 10/26/26 at 9:07 am to
quote:

You gotta have some go-getters from the sales rep standpoint that are highly compensated to close deals


Even if the science of the product sells itself, you have to have logistics, manufacturing capacities, and a customer that believes you can deliver the amount of product they need on time.

Maybe I'm missing something, but they don't seem to be doing that, and that is why I am speculating that they might not intend to make the pivot, but to hand over the keys to a company that already has sales, logistics, and manufacturing experience.

Again, how much is the company worth? If I'm HGRAF, I would have government deals lined up, customer contracts lined up, R&D going full steam, etc, and that seems to be what they are doing.
This post was edited on 10/26/26 at 9:09 am
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28622 posts
Posted on 10/26/26 at 9:14 am to
I would also argue that the company would be more valuable to a company like Dupont, that can not only make and sell graphene, but can use the graphene in their own products.

I will use Sparc as an example: Who owns the patent for Ecosparc? Sparc Technologies does. Hydrograph just sells them the key ingredient that differentiates their product. If Dupont owned the graphene, they could develop the product, patent it, and then sell it themselves. End to end. HGRAF doesn't have the resources to do that at this point. They are just selling samples and helping other companies develop the patents that make those businesses valuable.

The ability to develop and patent the use cases makes owning the patents to the production processes more valuable.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
51877 posts
Posted on 10/26/26 at 9:32 am to
I think it’s useful to keep in mind that both the manufacturing and process patents are not owned by HGRAF they are licensed from KSU. I realize that distinction may not matter today but its worth remembering

HGRAF has a worldwide exclusive license. I’d be curious as to how that would work if they either decide to sell the company or license the technology themselves. But they don’t own it
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28622 posts
Posted on 10/26/26 at 9:52 am to
quote:

HGRAF has a worldwide exclusive license. I’d be curious as to how that would work if they either decide to sell the company or license the technology themselves. But they don’t own it


I would assume that the license agreement would have to transfer over to the new company. I don't see how KSU would object. The bigger the market for their Hyperion generated graphene, the more money they would make.

Again, I am totally speculating for fun.
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