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re: Retirement Outlook - Will I Ever Retire?

Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:48 pm to
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
2479 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 7:48 pm to
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Are we saving enough to retire @ 63 with our current contributions and savings.


Save 20% (or more) of your income, before any matches. Put it in S&P 500 or Total Stack Market fund.

You’re done. Everything else will take care of itself.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:54 pm to
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USA is a very expensive place to live and is honestly very shitty compared to many cheap retirement spots in the world.


Interested in what your 3-5 top retirement locations would be. I’ve read that Mexico isn’t actually cheaper than the US once you factor in living in a safe neighborhood and buying products you are accustomed to like quality food. Essentially it’s cheap if you live like a Mexican and eat rice and beans but not that different if you eat like a normal American. What is your experience?
Posted by LaMotta
Member since Dec 2022
80 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 10:21 am to
You make a good point. I have an exit plan to retire at 52 and leave this country which is only going to continue to become worse and worse and punish people who work with more taxes and regulations. There’s many countries in the world that welcome self sustaining High net worth individuals and don’t punish them financially like the Unites States does.
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
3448 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 10:39 am to
Do you have children? I would love to do this, but I want to be with my kids and grandkids
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
4283 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 10:42 am to
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There’s many countries in the world that welcome self sustaining High net worth individuals and don’t punish them financially like the Unites States does.

If there's a consolidated list with pros and cons I would like to see it. I'll ask Chat GPT.
Posted by LaMotta
Member since Dec 2022
80 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 10:49 am to
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Do you have children? I would love to do this, but I want to be with my kids and grandkids


I do not have children but I can’t fathom wanting my kids or grandkids to be living in the United States in 20 years. It’s going to be an absolute cesspool with all the low iq, uneducated, and unskilled Illegal Immigrants who are pouring in and wasting and using your taxpayer dollars. Why stay in a country Ike that? You might as well move to Central America because that is what this country will mirror. No thanks.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5066 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:37 am to
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Why stay in a country like that?


What countires are you looking at?
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
3448 posts
Posted on 1/22/23 at 12:15 pm to
I guess I’ll see how things look as I get older. I have about 20 years until retirement
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
2886 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:44 am to
If you haven’t already, look at Fidelity’s retirement planner. It uses Monte Carlo to run scenarios, and the scenarios are quite conservative from a return perspective. It also allows you to run your numbers at a high level or a detailed level. Inputting expenses at the detailed level will ensure you’re not missing anything.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58484 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:43 am to
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I do not have children but I can’t fathom wanting my kids or grandkids to be living in the United States in 20 years. It’s going to be an absolute cesspool with all the low iq, uneducated, and unskilled Illegal Immigrants who are pouring in and wasting and using your taxpayer dollars. Why stay in a country Ike that? You might as well move to Central America because that is what this country will mirror. No thanks.

Lmao this perspective is so wrong


In 20 years the United States won’t resemble Central America. It’s gonna look more like Rhodesia after we sanctioned them to death or South Africa today. Hope y’all don’t mind machete attacks
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20729 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:38 am to
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You can also convert traditional to Roth using a conversion ladder later if in a high bracket now and expecting low bracket later.

Am I under thinking this. If you are in a higher tax bracket now than you would anticipate when you retire; wouldn't you want the tax break now?
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