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re: pointers for first "real" job salary negotiation
Posted on 4/6/17 at 11:22 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Posted on 4/6/17 at 11:22 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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every Glassdoor review I read said that's what they do
Entry level?
I graduated semi-recently in engineering (IIRC, you poke fun at engineers frequently, so I know you're not in the same boat), and only a few of my classmates ended up actually being able to to negotiate up. One of them had ~2 years experience in a co-op. Everyone else kind of took whatever was offered. Don't worry too much about how much you make on your first job. Get the experience in the field that you WANT to work in, then a few years down the line, start looking for better paying opportunities.
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Posted on 4/7/17 at 12:14 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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i have other options
So do they and probably way more. If it's a position you really want, I would not haggle for measly 5-10% and risk losing the job. In a short time, if you're any good, you should be able to make up the difference. If that 10% is a deal breaker, be prepared to walk and take another position.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 6:41 am to GreatLakesTiger24
What kind of job is this anyway?
Didn't you major in Finance?
Didn't you major in Finance?
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:43 am to southernelite
It's an analyst position. I don't want to say too much for purposes of anonymity.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:53 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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It's an analyst position. I don't want to say too much for purposes of anonymity.
Analyst positions are going to have a very hard salary number. You can try and look at perks (vacation, PTO, health benefits) but getting them to budge on salary for an analyst position is going to be very tough. Normally grads line up for these "training" jobs. They basically train a bunch of ppl hoping to find people who can be long term employees while weeding out the ones that under perform. They aren't going to just give you tons of $ up front.
Personally I'd try and find out how much they pay their analyst and if/when they ask you what kind of salary you are looking for I'd go just above that and not try and negotiate all that much higher. Unless you are a 4.0 type guy with great leadership and personality traits, you likely don't have a premium you can offer them.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 2:55 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I recently negotiated for my first job's salary. I told them I was considering several offers but that their company was my number 1 choice. Instead of asking for more money I asked for a relocation bonus (which was pretty much necessary) I also asked to get bi annual reviews for the next 3 years.
The reviews will probably help me to move up faster if I perform well (who doesn't plan on that?)
This is for a field position for a commercial contractor. I came in already having a couple of years of field labor experience plus 18 months of internship with a competitor.
My employer told me the review idea was great because due to my experience I would likely progress much faster and they wanted me to be challenged/not get bored.
The reviews will probably help me to move up faster if I perform well (who doesn't plan on that?)
This is for a field position for a commercial contractor. I came in already having a couple of years of field labor experience plus 18 months of internship with a competitor.
My employer told me the review idea was great because due to my experience I would likely progress much faster and they wanted me to be challenged/not get bored.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 7:10 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
If Glassdoor has reviews they have a salary range usually. Id ask for something in the top end of the range.
If you're good they'll make it right or you'll get a better opportunity and pay
If you're good they'll make it right or you'll get a better opportunity and pay
Posted on 4/8/17 at 12:41 am to SouthOfSouth
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Analyst positions are going to have a very hard salary number. You can try and look at perks (vacation, PTO, health benefits) but getting them to budge on salary for an analyst position is going to be very tough. Normally grads line up for these "training" jobs. They basically train a bunch of ppl hoping to find people who can be long term employees while weeding out the ones that under perform. They aren't going to just give you tons of $ up front.
This. They're not paying a premium for a frickin analyst
Especially when they have a dozen other guys that will take what they offer Posted on 4/8/17 at 12:40 pm to Carson123987
Idk why everyone is talking about a "premium"
I'm not talking about a counter offer
I'm not talking about a counter offer
Posted on 4/8/17 at 1:54 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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I'm not talking about a counter offer
Then it's not really a "negotiation". You are just looking for what is a realistic number to state if they ask you your opinion on the job salary.
Honestly, asking too much is going hurt you more than help if you don't have experience. Even when you have experience, asking too much puts bad tastes in people's mouths. I have a friend who started with me who did just that. He missed out on that opportunity and has been passed over many more times because they don't even want to deal with his unreal expectations. I'd know the market and target within 10% of that starting salary level. Not to try to squeeze that additional 10%, but instead to let them know that you have a good idea of what you are getting into. And that you have realistic expectations of the job.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:28 am to KG6
if anyone was curious, there was no negation. i guess my information was bad. also, the number i would have asked for was very close to what they offered.
regardless, thanks for the input.
regardless, thanks for the input.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:26 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Did you ask about negotiation? Or "accept" their offer without asking about negotiations.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:50 am to Larry Gooseman
there was supposed to be a second on-site interview, but they sent an offer letter a few days later. to answer your question, I did not ask about it.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:52 am to iknowmorethanyou
also ask for more PTO, always ask for more time. Many places rather do this than move money (budget restrictions)
Posted on 4/18/17 at 9:17 am to Mossive
Depending on size of firm, these things are generally fixed for new employees. An undergraduate has very little leverage coming out of school.
Once someone has a job, the equation shifts dramatically because the new employer doesn't know our BATNA.
Once someone has a job, the equation shifts dramatically because the new employer doesn't know our BATNA.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 9:40 am to lynxcat
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Depending on size of firm, these things are generally fixed for new employees. An undergraduate has very little leverage coming out of school.
Once someone has a job, the equation shifts dramatically because the new employer doesn't know our BATNA.
I'm not sure I've ever worked for a place that hasn't had a pretty rigid PTO structure.
Last place was 15 days plus flex time.
Right now I have 17 and not really flex time, but they're not gonna give a frick if I take some time to go to appointments or just want to dip out early.
If I were to ever want to leave, it's going to be about the money, not the PTO.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 9:48 am to Mossive
quote:it's a very large company so i figured that wasn't something that could be changed, and I'm happy enough with what they offered
also ask for more PTO, always ask for more time. Many places rather do this than move money (budget restrictions)
Posted on 4/18/17 at 10:07 am to GreatLakesTiger24
grats on the job! Always nice and important to get that first one!
Posted on 4/18/17 at 10:11 am to SouthOfSouth
Thanks baw
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