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Posted on 4/23/21 at 6:14 pm to
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82121 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

Had an infuriating debate with a coworker that wants Bitcoin banned or taxed to oblivion for being bad for the environment today

CNBC was pushing this BS all morning.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 6:15 pm to
maybe that’s what set this dude off

can’t stand the ignorance
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82121 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 6:18 pm to
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I am so confused. What does this have to do with Bitcoin being dangerous for the environment?

Bitcoin is mined using electricity. Many uneducated people think that mining bitcoin is using way too much energy. Producing energy/electricity typically involved emitting CO2.

So these uneducated people think that all this bitcoin mining is consuming more electricity than some countries, thus emitting unneeded CO2 into the environment.
Posted by mtcheral
BR
Member since Oct 2008
2088 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 6:34 pm to
And these idiots also want all electric vehicles.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 6:39 pm to
were environmentalists this mad about computers when they were invented
This post was edited on 4/23/21 at 6:40 pm
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
15396 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 6:45 pm to
Yes the CO2 argument is dumb, but mining is using an insane amount of power regardless with some farms requiring a direct tie to transmission, which is incredible
This post was edited on 4/23/21 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10607 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 7:08 pm to
I just went long June 2021 strike $7,500, breakeven point $46,101 BTC.

The options are so expensive due to volatility, but there seems to be some market inefficiencies. Surprising, my %55,000 protective puts, although higher, aren't really that much higher given all that has transpired the last several days.

When I say market inefficiencies, what I mean is priced at a level I find decent given my overall long position, and protecting gains on the put side. I'm not bothering with implied, Greeks, etc., etc..
Posted by LSUisKING12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
323 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 8:31 pm to
I’m sure this has been talked about a bunch but why can I not use binance in Louisiana?
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12111 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 6:51 am to
all the other stupid fud has been disproven, all that's left is environment/wasting energy

People are such retards
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 8:06 am to
Nvm
This post was edited on 4/24/21 at 8:14 am
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 10:43 am to
I'm not sure exactly what compels people to rail against things they barely understand but it is fairly annoying.

Ponzi scheme
Environment
Criminals use it

The critics of Bitcoin are a broken record and you can show them how wrong they are over and over again and they just ignore it and keep coming back. It's maddening.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 10:47 am to
if bitcoin didnt have a number value attached to it, most people wouldnt even care.

the fact that nearly everyone had an opportunity to buy it under $500 makes them irrationally angry.

so instead of saying, "i was wrong" one time, they continue to cope with, "its a scam, ponzi, fad, will be banned" - its all ego preservation.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
18018 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 11:02 am to
ETH/BTC looks to be the highest it's been in a while. Thoughts on the risk of swapping out eth for btc then swapping back into eth once it reverses? They seem to be a bit decoupled these last few weeks. Or could we really see eth value creeping up?

Edit I guess the worst that happens is you're "stuck" with btc which is never bad.
This post was edited on 4/24/21 at 11:03 am
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 11:11 am to
yea, the last bull cycle ETH had a huge run where BTC stayed flat and then dominance also fell. so holding ETH during this time meant more gains. this was playing out quite clearly until the biden CG tax fud and then we dipped.

at this point, im market neutral on whether the bull run continues as i think there will need to be a catalyst to push us into higher highs but this chart is interesting.

Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 11:56 am to
I trade option with my stock but where do you trade options for crypto? I am on several crypto exchanges but never see options.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10607 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:46 pm to
LedgerX. And I'm looking to see if I can trade bitvol, but haven't found any place yet.
Posted by maclauer
Member since Nov 2011
4765 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 12:58 pm to
SOL showing ridiculous strength. Back at $40
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51111 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 1:59 pm to
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eta: here is a fun little chart
bookmarked

So, it looks like maybe 2nd-3rd quarter of 2022 would be the time to jump back in?
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51111 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

time will tell if the dip is over but that was the 4th big bitcoin dip this year

32%
26%
20%
27%

still up ~80% for 2021
Has to be somewhat breathtaking and ball minimizing whenever a big dip happens and you're watching million$ just melt away.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 2:09 pm to
this cycle is gonna be different because of how much institutional money is in it, but it will go back down again at some point. I just dont know how low, how high its gonna go before it will drop, and how long it will be there.

conventional logic says we really should see 100k bitcoin before the next major dip but that seems unlikely. we're in the "shitcoin run" phase which usually precedes the beginning of the end
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