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Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 1:40 pm to
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I also noticed some differences, as there were previously complaints about the final throwing curveballs, but the class no longer has a final. I don't particularly like walking in "blind" as it were, but I guess I don't have much choice now. I believe we may end up being the guinea pigs for this new format. I just hope it's not too bad.


No final exam, but there is a final project worth about 28% of the grade.

Given all of the feedback on Darrat's MKT 701 course last term (I took James, so I wasn't in it), It looks like if you are coming into this new version of ISDS 710 as someone who hasn't taken ISDS 702 and with little to no experience programming/coding, you're in for a pretty rough term.

In fact, I think LSUS should make ISDS 702 a prerequisite for a few classes, including ISDS 710, ECON 705, and possibly FIN 701. Unfortunately it's an elective.
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 1:47 pm
Posted by ladytiger77
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 1:42 pm to
@GeauxUF Congrats! I know you're excited! I think a review will be extremely helpful for people beginning the program like myself.
Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 1:49 pm to
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@GeauxUF Congrats! I know you're excited! I think a review will be extremely helpful for people beginning the program like myself.


@ ladytiger77 You're not kidding! I can taste having my life back!

Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 4:11 pm to
So, I decided to go ahead and post a review so far. Bear with me - this is super long! Please keep in mind this is my personal experience and mine alone. Overall, I've been happy with the pacing of the program and compared to the cost of the program, some of this is to be expected. We are getting an outstanding value at LSUS when compared to other B-schools.

There tends to be three types of classes at LSUS with some slight variation:

* Read/Write Focused: Weekly Reading, Weekly Writing Assignment, Weekly Discussion, Weekly Exam. These are often run almost completely on autopilot by the instructor with little input or feedback.

* Read/Math Focused: Weekly Reading/Course Material, Weekly Practice Problems, Weekly Zoom session, Weekly Exam. There tends to be considerably more instructor/class interaction in these courses.

* James’ MKT 701: This goes in a category by itself. See below.

All course weeks start on Monday at 12:00am CST and end on the following Sunday at 11:59pm CST, with the exception of the last week of a term, which ends on Saturday 11:59pm CST.

MKT 701 (James):
Let’s get this out of the way now: this marketing strategy class is the most difficult class from a workload standpoint in the entire program. If you work full time, take it as a solo class. If you are absolutely convinced you have to double up to finish the program quickly, I suggest taking it with ISDS 705. I doubled it up with ACCT 701, which worked out, although I also was not working a full-time job when I took it. The material is actually not very difficult, and I learned quite a bit from this course. Each week, there is reading from Dr. James’ self-written textbook and an exam using Proctorio that is artificially time limited to be available from Wednesday to Sunday. For three of the weeks, you will have a discussion forum assignment that would be equivalent to a single final course assignment in any other course. Each of these assignments requires TurnItIn validation and full references. In addition, there is “The Project”: a two-part, minimum 10 page per part project requiring a massive amount of research and synthesis for each part. Each portion of The Project requires TurnItIn validation. With that said, Dr. James is one of the best instructors in the program. While she uses “coaches” to offload the grading for the massive course workload, James is very involved in the course, very enthusiastic, and seems to care about student outcomes. Make no mistake though, this class will be a test of your will. James is very upfront in recommending that you take the course another time if you intend to take any type of vacation or time away. You will spend 30-40 hours a week working on this course, minimum. Many have suggested taking Darrat’s version of MKT 701 to avoid the workload, however, the feedback suggests that his course comes with a very different set of challenges that may offset any benefit.

To be continued...
This post was edited on 10/20/18 at 9:29 am
Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 4:12 pm to
ISDS 702 (Koksal, Data Analytics, and general elective):
This is a basic statistics class. I think this course should be a hands-down prerequisite for ECON 705, ISDS 710, and possibly FIN 701. I learned a ton in this course. Follows the Read/Math Focused template, with the exception that there are fantastic weekly video lectures from Dr. Koksal in place of textbook readings. Dr. Koksal does an outstanding job breaking down very complex mathematical concepts. There is also a weekly discussion forum with additional practice work that is optional but helpful. Exams are weekly, available for the entire week, and proctored using Proctorio. Dr. Koksal may be my favorite professor in the entire program. The workload is light to moderate.

MADM 701 (F. Williams):
This is a course on organizational behavior and leadership – the “HR” class. Follows the Read/Write focused template. Exams are weekly, artificially time limited to be available Wednesday through Sunday, and proctored through Proctorio, with no outside notes or text materials allowed. The textbook is highly dense and needlessly complex, written like a long-form research journal article, mostly promoting the authors’ view that their own research is superior to prior research, which is also presented. Exams are not based on how well you comprehend the material or how well you can apply it, but how well you memorized text from the readings word for word, point by point. Williams has decided that since this is a “graduate-level course,” the way to add graduate-level difficulty is to pile on as much writing as possible. You will write a minimum of 1600-1700 words per week to meet the rubric for the weekly writing assignment and weekly discussion assignment. Note that while the discussion assignments state they are “graded for completion,” they are actually graded according to a rubric, so be sure to follow it. Dr. Williams is largely absent from the course, as “coaches” perform all the grading of writing assignments. I found the “coach’s” grading from one week to the next to be highly inconsistent. I’m not sure if anyone else conducts this course, but you may want to consider them instead of Williams. This course has a heavy workload, however less than MKT 701.

ECON 705 (White):
I learned a lot of useful information in this course from an overall economic mental model standpoint. This is the most mathematics-heavy course in the program, followed by ISDS 702 and FIN 701. Follows the Read/Math Focused template exactly. All exams were available for the entire week and proctored via Proctorio. The use of Excel on the exams was not permitted at all, and a financial calculator had to be purchased (no iPhone / tablet calculators apps or graphing calculators allowed). White was a massive stickler for ensuring all Proctorio webcam scans of your room showed a complete 360-degree floor to ceiling view of your room and desk. All formulas needed to be completely memorized and internalized. If you haven’t done calculus ever or for a while, brush up on integrals (they are not too hard once you get the hang of it). I highly, highly, highly recommend taking ISDS 702 before taking this class if possible, because the math and formulas are 90%+ based on statistics and linear equations. Having an understanding in statistics will reduce your workload dramatically. I think the way the course was presented and conducted by Dr. White artificially inflated the difficulty of this course. The workload of this class is moderate to heavy depending on how much you feel you need to interpret, practice and memorize. Most seem to recommend Shaughnessy as he appears to allow the use of Excel on exams.

To be continued...
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 4:28 pm
Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 4:13 pm to
HCAD 750 (Gherfal, Data Analytics Concentration only):
This class – Healthcare Informatics - had a lot of potential, and while I learned a few things, I was disappointed. Followed the Read/Write Focused course template exactly. Brocal ran this class completely on autopilot with very little interaction. Exams were available for the entire week and used Proctorio, no notes or materials permitted. Weekly writing assignment of 500 words or so that required TurnItIn validation, plus required discussion forum post and reply. There’s really no alternative to this course and instructor, so if you are in the Data Analytics concentration, you have to take it. Fortunately, it was not terribly difficult and the workload was moderate.

FIN 701 (Vines):
This is a high-level finance class. There is a lot of great material here. the course is mathematically complex, yet balanced by qualitative business content. Follows the Read/Math Focused template, with the exception that there are four exams spaced roughly equally through the course on week 2, week 4, week 5/6 (Sunday-Tuesday), and week 7. These exams make up the entirety of your grade in this course. Exams have a 48-hour window of availability from 7am CST to 7am CST two days after. There is no proctoring on the exams, and each exam has a 60-minute time limit that I needed every last second of. All questions have open-ended free text answers to show work or communicate your understanding. You are allowed any resource you can find, but know that Dr. Vines will hand check answers for copying and pasting from the web or other sources. Dr. Vines is up there with Dr. Koksal and Dr. James as one of the best instructors in the program. He is massively enthusiastic, very engaged, cares about his students, has a great sense of humor, and explains complex concepts in a very easy to understand fashion. Vines provides all course content as a self-authored web page within Moodle or alternatively in MS Word. His regular Zoom sessions throughout the class, which he provides as recordings, are invaluable and where most of the learning happens. Use of Excel to create financial models and formulas before the exams are absolutely key. While there is a lot of math, keep in mind that you will be assessed more on qualitative knowledge of the material than quantitative. Dr. Vines is also the self-proclaimed “King of Partial Credit,” meaning that you should take advantage of the free-text exam fields to show your work and explain your understanding of the material as best as possible in order to get credit even if your answer is incorrect. This course has a moderate workload.

ACCT 701 (McGee):
This is a pretty high-level accounting course focused on managerial accounting and ratios. Followed the Read/Math Focused template. Exams were proctored using Proctorio and artificially time limited to be available from Thursday to Sunday. Exams had frequent formatting and content discrepancies that hurt many students’ grades in significant ways. McGee comes off like someone who was teaching middle school a year ago instead of graduate students and professionals paying $2400 a class. Everything is big bold red letters telling you what you must do, that there is zero extra credit, and letting you know that you shouldn’t ask her or email her anything. At the end of the term, and after consulting the department chair, McGee had to give in and provide compensatory grade credit for the exam issues. Avoid McGee if at all possible. The workload of this class was light to moderate.

To be continued...
This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 9:48 pm
Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 4:14 pm to
ISDS 705 (Lin):
This course (Management Information Systems) is an elementary class on business technology. It follows a simplified version of the Read/Write focused template, where there is absolutely no writing component, meaning you read the book and take the test. There are only three exams, which represent the only opportunities to be graded, on week 3, week 5, and week 7. Your entire grade in the course is based on these three exams. Each exam is only available within a single 18-hour period, with zero flexibility. You are permitted to use a single page of notes, typed front and back, for reference on the exam. Lin is the only instructor in the program using ProctorU, which may be the worst proctoring solution in the history of education. You must sign up ahead of the exam for an appointment time to be proctored or pay extra to take the test on demand during the exam availability window. Then, you have a live proctor install software on your personal computer and run background scripts to turn off various operating system functions, which is a massive breach of both personal space and security. There is no telling if one of their proctors installs a keylogger or other malicious software on your computer. Then, the live proctor stares at you over webcam while taking the exam. Finally, once done, you need to hope that the proctor reverses all of the changes they made to your computer before ending the session and rebooting to get your computer back to a normal state. I’m very torn on this class because on one hand, it offers a welcome “active recovery” break from the intensity of MKT 701, ECON 705, and MADM 710. On the other hand, the course is run 100% on autopilot, Lin has zero interaction with anyone, and ProctorU is atrocious. Unfortunately, it’s a required course and Lin appears to be the only one “teaching” it.

MADM 710 (Meeks):
About to take this course on Strategy Management (Fall AP2). Syllabus indicates that this is a heavy workload course on the Read/Write focused template adding weekly quizzes with multiple attempts, weekly group coursework, a final group project, and a weekly solo project. There are two books for the class, however, one is loosely considered optional yet highly recommended since you must purchase it and Dr. Meeks provides video lectures about the material to offset the cost. I’m going to guess that the workload is heavy, maybe more than MADM 701.

ISDS 710 (Darrat, Data Analytics concentration, and general elective):
Also about to start this course on Data Analytics. Read/Math focused template with a final project. Apparently, the entire format and content of the course changed this term (Fall AP2), as it focuses on statistical modeling using the R data analysis programming language. ISDS 702 (statistics) appears to be a natural prerequisite. An undergraduate degree in computer science, information technology, or prior experience as a software developer or programmer is going to make a massive difference in how you handle the course workload up front.

Hope this helps a few people out there. Good luck this term!
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 4:16 pm
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 6:30 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 6:31 pm
Posted by pineveillj
Pineville
Member since Sep 2018
68 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 7:37 pm to
What was the format of the lin tests? Did you do a lot with your note sheet?
Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 9:22 am to
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What was the format of the lin tests? Did you do a lot with your note sheet?


Multiple choice and True/False. I don’t remember off hand how many questions. I believe they were time limited to 60 minutes, but usually I was done in about 25-30 minutes.

My note sheets were made in Word, double column layout, using the smallest font and margins possible, and printed using the duplex function in my printer to be double sided. I typed up the notes as I read the material.
Posted by FL Sun
FL
Member since May 2018
29 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 9:58 am to
Would Like feedback on BADM790 Biz Analytics:
Final? Proctored? Level of difficulty & time required?
Thank you.
Posted by pkwy22
Member since Oct 2018
12 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 12:58 pm to
Awesome review GeauxUF!

I'll be joining you in Meeks' MADM 760 this session. I hope you are wrong about it potentially being more work than Williams' MADM 701! Luckily, I'm pairing it with Lin's ISDS 705. Quick question, I know you said you put in approximately 30-40 hrs a week in James' class, how many hours did you put in per week for MADM 701?
Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 1:16 pm to
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Quick question, I know you said you put in approximately 30-40 hrs a week in James' class, how many hours did you put in per week for MADM 701?


Not nearly as much as MKT 701! Maybe 20-25 hours a week maximum, including all of the reading, research for writing assignments, taking the exam, finishing the weekly writing assignment and discussion, etc. For comparison, I spent about the same amount of time on ECON 705 and maybe 5-10 hours a week max on ISDS 705.

One thing I didn't mention for MADM 701 is how the weeks are usually structured. On Monday, reading chapters for the week are provided and the writing assignment is available. Exam is available on Wednesday. Weekly Discussion is available Friday. Assignments and Discussions are usually graded 7 days from when they become first available. There is no weekly writing assignment during the last week.
This post was edited on 10/20/18 at 1:19 pm
Posted by pkwy22
Member since Oct 2018
12 posts
Posted on 10/20/18 at 2:55 pm to
Thanks for the answer! I overdid it and put in about 30-40 hours a week in MADM 701, but that was largely because 701 was my first academic heavy course since I graduated in 2005 with a biology degree. Vast majority of my time, especially the last 3 weeks, was spent reading, taking the notes (as suggested, detailed and high volume), and studying for the exam. I made a list of EVERY single series or list in the chapter on a poster board (front and back completely filled for each chapter) and a corresponding acronym for each list. As a result, I scored really well on the tests but spent waaaayyyy too much time each week for just one class.
Posted by craigp53
Member since Sep 2018
25 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 12:17 am to
Does Lin test on the articles or just the book?
Posted by pineveillj
Pineville
Member since Sep 2018
68 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:39 am to
Not sure.
But the module 1 2nd article on security is so boring and I have not idea what they are talking about.
Posted by Lutzhill
Member since Oct 2017
46 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 10:34 am to
Minimal article content included in Lin’s tests. Exam content is mostly from text. Be aware though, that although minimal, the content from articles could be the difference in letter grade.

LH
Posted by sernt18
Member since Aug 2018
30 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:40 am to
@BTX722 From your experience, how does team assignment work? How do you contact them and does team leader (if assigned) schedule a meeting and what do you submit as a team assignment ?
Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:42 am to
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Thanks for the answer! I overdid it and put in about 30-40 hours a week in MADM 701, but that was largely because 701 was my first academic heavy course since I graduated in 2005 with a biology degree. Vast majority of my time, especially the last 3 weeks, was spent reading, taking the notes (as suggested, detailed and high volume), and studying for the exam. I made a list of EVERY single series or list in the chapter on a poster board (front and back completely filled for each chapter) and a corresponding acronym for each list. As a result, I scored really well on the tests but spent waaaayyyy too much time each week for just one class.


For sure! My strategy was to read the weekly material in detail (no note taking, contrary to the copious advice from Dr. Williams) and immediately take the weekly exam. I generally got low 80s to low 90s on the exams. I spent more time on the writing assignments, and never really got below a 90 on those. Ended up with a low A in the course since the weekly writing assignments and exams were wighted equally. That strategy may not work for everyone though.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 11:49 am
Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:46 am to
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Minimal article content included in Lin’s tests. Exam content is mostly from text. Be aware though, that although minimal, the content from articles could be the difference in letter grade.


I'll second this. Maybe 10% - 15% of the content in the exams comes from outside articles and Lin's copy-pasted notes. As @Lutzhill said, that could be a letter grade difference.
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